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Hey guys,

There's been some talk lately about when certain types of reviews show
up on the MEFA site. I don't mind what's been discussed so far, but I
don't want to go too far toward discussing specific stories. I don't
want people to feel like they should review the stories being discussed.
But as for general discussions - that's fine, and probably a good thing
to mention.

When a reviewer enters a vote at the MEFA website, they give it one of
three status: draft, hidden, and final.

--- Draft reviews are never visible to anyone beside the reviewer (and a
few top-level admins). They are counted. These reviews are for reviews
where the reviewer isn't sure they want the review "counted." A lot of
these reviews are notes people make as they are reading the story, that
they later want to turn into a more formal review at a later date.

--- Hidden reviews will be displayed and counted at the end of voting.
The value of hidden reviews is that they can be edited up until that
point, but will automatically be counted if the reviewer doesn't do
anything more with them.

--- And final reviews are the ones that show up now.

So if you aren't seeing any reviews for a particular story, it doesn't
mean there's a problem with the website. Or that that story is getting
overlooked. It's very possible that there are more reviews that have
been written but aren't displayed yet. And it's even more possible that
people want to review your story or are behind in their MEFA reviewing.
There are still several weeks to go.

I'm not unsympathetic - we all want feedback, so I can understand why
people might be anxious that they haven't gotten very many (or any)
reviews. But because of the way our competition is set up, it doesn't
really mean that much, in terms of whether you will get reviews or not
overall.

Marta

>> __________They are counted._________

I think you mean "They are NOT counted." (?)

Sulriel

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Marta <marta.fandom@gmail.com> wrote:
///snipped///
> --- Draft reviews are never visible to anyone beside the reviewer (and a
> few top-level admins). __________They are counted._________ These reviews are for reviews
> where the reviewer isn't sure they want the review "counted." A lot of
> these reviews are notes people make as they are reading the story, that
> they later want to turn into a more formal review at a later date.
>

This is a good reminder of the limits of this system during the voting
season! It's tempting to think "Nobody likes me" when you don't see a bunch
of reviews popping up. But obviously that's not true.

It's also a reminder that time's passing and there is less than two months
left-- and that the busiest time of year (in both RL, and in fandom) is
coming up! Waiting until December to review might mean you won't get to do
as many as you want to!

Again, not wanting to nudge people into the directions of any particular
stories-- but some might want to take a look at the review status
story filter: there is a filter for 2 or fewer reviews, and one for 0
reviews. This could be helpful to those who might want to spread their
reviews among some of the lesser known stories.

Dreamflower

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Marta <marta.fandom@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hey guys,
>
> There's been some talk lately about when certain types of reviews show
> up on the MEFA site. I don't mind what's been discussed so far, but I
> don't want to go too far toward discussing specific stories. I don't
> want people to feel like they should review the stories being discussed.
> But as for general discussions - that's fine, and probably a good thing
> to mention.
>
> When a reviewer enters a vote at the MEFA website, they give it one of
> three status: draft, hidden, and final.
>
> --- Draft reviews are never visible to anyone beside the reviewer (and a
> few top-level admins). They are counted. These reviews are for reviews
> where the reviewer isn't sure they want the review "counted." A lot of
> these reviews are notes people make as they are reading the story, that
> they later want to turn into a more formal review at a later date.
>
> --- Hidden reviews will be displayed and counted at the end of voting.
> The value of hidden reviews is that they can be edited up until that
> point, but will automatically be counted if the reviewer doesn't do
> anything more with them.
>
> --- And final reviews are the ones that show up now.
>
> So if you aren't seeing any reviews for a particular story, it doesn't
> mean there's a problem with the website. Or that that story is getting
> overlooked. It's very possible that there are more reviews that have
> been written but aren't displayed yet. And it's even more possible that
> people want to review your story or are behind in their MEFA reviewing.
> There are still several weeks to go.
>
> I'm not unsympathetic - we all want feedback, so I can understand why
> people might be anxious that they haven't gotten very many (or any)
> reviews. But because of the way our competition is set up, it doesn't
> really mean that much, in terms of whether you will get reviews or not
> overall.
>
> Marta
>
>


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Yep. I've done a bunch (for me, it's a bunch) but still have a bunch
more on my wish list. I doubt I'll be able to get to them all, but I
need to get back in the groove of doing one or two a night and see how
far down the list I can get.


Sue L
~ A Hard Hero is Good to Find ~

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Barbara Rich <aelfwina@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is a good reminder of the limits of this system during the voting
> season!  It's tempting to think "Nobody likes me" when you don't see a bunch
> of reviews popping up.  But obviously that's not true.
>
> It's also a reminder that time's passing and there is less than two months
> left-- and that the busiest time of year (in both RL, and in fandom) is
> coming up!  Waiting until December to review might mean you won't get to do
> as many  as you want to!
>
> Again, not wanting to nudge people into the directions of any particular
> stories-- but some might want to take a look at the review status
> story filter: there is a filter for 2 or fewer reviews, and one for 0
> reviews.  This could be helpful to those who might want to spread their
> reviews among some of the lesser known stories.
>
> Dreamflower
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Marta <marta.fandom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> There's been some talk lately about when certain types of reviews show
>> up on the MEFA site. I don't mind what's been discussed so far, but I
>> don't want to go too far toward discussing specific stories. I don't
>> want people to feel like they should review the stories being discussed.
>> But as for general discussions - that's fine, and probably a good thing
>> to mention.
>>
>> When a reviewer enters a vote at the MEFA website, they give it one of
>> three status: draft, hidden, and final.
>>
>> --- Draft reviews are never visible to anyone beside the reviewer (and a
>> few top-level admins). They are counted. These reviews are for reviews
>> where the reviewer isn't sure they want the review "counted." A lot of
>> these reviews are notes people make as they are reading the story, that
>> they later want to turn into a more formal review at a later date.
>>
>> --- Hidden reviews will be displayed and counted at the end of voting.
>> The value of hidden reviews is that they can be edited up until that
>> point, but will automatically be counted if the reviewer doesn't do
>> anything more with them.
>>
>> --- And final reviews are the ones that show up now.
>>
>> So if you aren't seeing any reviews for a particular story, it doesn't
>> mean there's a problem with the website. Or that that story is getting
>> overlooked. It's very possible that there are more reviews that have
>> been written but aren't displayed yet. And it's even more possible that
>> people want to review your story or are behind in their MEFA reviewing.
>> There are still several weeks to go.
>>
>> I'm not unsympathetic - we all want feedback, so I can understand why
>> people might be anxious that they haven't gotten very many (or any)
>> reviews. But because of the way our competition is set up, it doesn't
>> really mean that much, in terms of whether you will get reviews or not
>> overall.
>>
>> Marta
>>
>>
>
>
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>
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Súlriel of Menegroth wrote:

> >> __________They are counted._________
>
> I think you mean "They are NOT counted." (?)
>
>

*blush* Yes - that was me in a rush to get out the door, and doing a
poor job o editing. You're right. Draft reviews are *not* counted.


For the interested - this is told more thoroughly (and in a more
polished format) in the FAQs.

http://mefawards.net/MEFA2009/index.php?page=FAQvoting#vot_3

Marta