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A moment ago I clicked on story #53, McHobbits.

Instead of taking me to the story, the click took me to this URL:
http://www.lotrfanfiction.com/

It's an announcement the site has been suspended. This concerns me, because
I know that there are several stories nominated that are located at this
site, and there's no indication of when the site will be back up and
running.

Dreamflower


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I noticed this earlier tonight when I tried to get on my account.  That is the only fanfiction website which I actually write for and the fact that I can't get to any of my stuff is starting to scare me a little.  I have my stories saved on my computer and flash drives, thankfully, but every bit of feedback I've ever gotten is on that site and it's very disheartening to think I'll never be able to see it again.  I hope that it will be able to continue running.  In the meantime, Dreamflower, you might want to email the site's host- I think she posted her email address on the page.

-Traveller




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From: Barbara Rich <aelfwina@gmail.com>
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 10:31:53 PM
Subject: [MEFAwards] Archive site suspension

 
A moment ago I clicked on story #53, McHobbits.

Instead of taking me to the story, the click took me to this URL:
http://www.lotrfanfiction.com/

It's an announcement the site has been suspended. This concerns me, because
I know that there are several stories nominated that are located at this
site, and there's no indication of when the site will be back up and
running.

Dreamflower

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There is a way to retrieve stories from LOTRFF, even though the archive is
currently down. You can either search for the name of your story on Google
and then click "Cache," or go to _http://www.archive.org/index.php_
(http://www.archive.org/index.php) and paste in the address. The Internet Archive
site will give you a list of update dates for which you searched; click on
the most recent date. The good thing about the Internet Archive is that
you can follow most of the links on a page that is no longer online, while on
Google, you can only access cached copies of the pages that come up in the
search.

I hope that Lord of the Rings Fanfiction comes back and will be able to
continue and expand.

Angmar


In a message dated 11/25/2009 10:56:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ashleyp514@yahoo.com writes:

I noticed this earlier tonight when I tried to get on my account. That is
the only fanfiction website which I actually write for and the fact that I
can't get to any of my stuff is starting to scare me a little. I have my
stories saved on my computer and flash drives, thankfully, but every bit of
feedback I've ever gotten is on that site and it's very disheartening to
think I'll never be able to see it again. I hope that it will be able to
continue running. In the meantime, Dreamflower, you might want to email the
site's host- I think she posted her email address on the page.

-Traveller

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From: Barbara Rich <_aelfwina@gmail.ael_ (mailto:aelfwina@gmail.com) >
To: _MEFAwards@yahoogrouMEFAwa_ (mailto:MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com)
Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 10:31:53 PM
Subject: [MEFAwards] Archive site suspension


A moment ago I clicked on story #53, McHobbits.

Instead of taking me to the story, the click took me to this URL:
_http://www.lotrfanfhttp://www._ (http://www.lotrfanfiction.com/)

It's an announcement the site has been suspended. This concerns me, because
I know that there are several stories nominated that are located at this
site, and there's no indication of when the site will be back up and
running.

Dreamflower




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I too, have several stories there, though I've not uploaded them all yet.
But what concerns me is the MEFAs, since it's possible there is no other way
to access some of the nominated stories that are archived there. I know
I've already left reviews for a few of them, and have others on my wish
list.

What would be the MEFA policy on stories that were properly available at
nomination time, but then later on become unavailable through no fault of
the author?

Dreamflower

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Ashley Pooch <ashleyp514@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> I noticed this earlier tonight when I tried to get on my account. That is
> the only fanfiction website which I actually write for and the fact that I
> can't get to any of my stuff is starting to scare me a little. I have my
> stories saved on my computer and flash drives, thankfully, but every bit of
> feedback I've ever gotten is on that site and it's very disheartening to
> think I'll never be able to see it again. I hope that it will be able to
> continue running. In the meantime, Dreamflower, you might want to email the
> site's host- I think she posted her email address on the page.
>
> -Traveller
>
> ________________________________
> From: Barbara Rich <aelfwina@gmail.com <aelfwina%40gmail.com>>
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 10:31:53 PM
> Subject: [MEFAwards] Archive site suspension
>
>
>
> A moment ago I clicked on story #53, McHobbits.
>
> Instead of taking me to the story, the click took me to this URL:
> http://www.lotrfanfiction.com/
>
> It's an announcement the site has been suspended. This concerns me, because
> I know that there are several stories nominated that are located at this
> site, and there's no indication of when the site will be back up and
> running.
>
> Dreamflower
>
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>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Would this be a feasible way for people to read the stories?

Dreamflower

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:10 PM, <shakhburgul@aol.com> wrote:

>
>
> There is a way to retrieve stories from LOTRFF, even though the archive is
> currently down. You can either search for the name of your story on Google
> and then click "Cache," or go to _http://www.archive.org/index.php_
> (http://www.archive.org/index.php) and paste in the address. The Internet
> Archive
> site will give you a list of update dates for which you searched; click on
> the most recent date. The good thing about the Internet Archive is that
> you can follow most of the links on a page that is no longer online, while
> on
> Google, you can only access cached copies of the pages that come up in the
> search.
>
> I hope that Lord of the Rings Fanfiction comes back and will be able to
> continue and expand.
>
> Angmar
>
>
> In a message dated 11/25/2009 10:56:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> ashleyp514@yahoo.com <ashleyp514%40yahoo.com> writes:
>
> I noticed this earlier tonight when I tried to get on my account. That is
> the only fanfiction website which I actually write for and the fact that I
> can't get to any of my stuff is starting to scare me a little. I have my
> stories saved on my computer and flash drives, thankfully, but every bit of
>
> feedback I've ever gotten is on that site and it's very disheartening to
> think I'll never be able to see it again. I hope that it will be able to
> continue running. In the meantime, Dreamflower, you might want to email the
>
> site's host- I think she posted her email address on the page.
>
> -Traveller
>
> ________________________________
> From: Barbara Rich <_aelfwina@gmail.ael <_aelfwina%40gmail.ael>_ (mailto:
> aelfwina@gmail.com <aelfwina%40gmail.com>) >
> To: _MEFAwards@yahoogrouMEFAwa_ (mailto:MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com<MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>)
>
> Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 10:31:53 PM
> Subject: [MEFAwards] Archive site suspension
>
> A moment ago I clicked on story #53, McHobbits.
>
> Instead of taking me to the story, the click took me to this URL:
> _http://www.lotrfanfhttp://www._ <http://www.lotrfanfhttp//www._> (
> http://www.lotrfanfiction.com/)
>
> It's an announcement the site has been suspended. This concerns me, because
> I know that there are several stories nominated that are located at this
> site, and there's no indication of when the site will be back up and
> running.
>
> Dreamflower
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Dreamflower,

I just checked the Internet Archive, and at this time, that site has not
picked up pages from LOTRFF since 2007. The Google cache method would be
more reliable for recently updated sites, but not every page of a story may be
picked up by Google. At least something will be available, though.

Angmar


In a message dated 11/25/2009 11:18:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
aelfwina@gmail.com writes:

Would this be a feasible way for people to read the stories?

Dreamflower

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:10 PM, <shakhburgul@aol.com> wrote:

>
>
> There is a way to retrieve stories from LOTRFF, even though the archive
is
> currently down. You can either search for the name of your story on
Google
> and then click "Cache," or go to _http://www.archive.org/index.php_
> (http://www.archive.org/index.php) and paste in the address. The
Internet
> Archive
> site will give you a list of update dates for which you searched; click
on
> the most recent date. The good thing about the Internet Archive is that
> you can follow most of the links on a page that is no longer online,
while
> on
> Google, you can only access cached copies of the pages that come up in
the
> search.
>
> I hope that Lord of the Rings Fanfiction comes back and will be able to
> continue and expand.
>
> Angmar




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Hi Dreamflower

Thanks for bringing the issue with http://www.lotrfanfiction.com/ to our
attention.

I've just checked the site and there is now a message explaining that
they have exceeded the resources allowed for their hosting package and
asking for donations to keep the site running. There's still no
indication when/if the archive will be available again.

> What would be the MEFA policy on stories that were properly available at
> nomination time, but then later on become unavailable through no fault of
> the author?

These stories continue to compete in the MEFAs. Where possible, we do
what we can to ensure they are not disadvantaged, such as switching URLs
to a different site where the author can supply us with that.

At present, there are 29 stories affected. These are by 12 authors:
Ignoble Bard, Kenaz, chaotic_binky, j_dav (JDE), Midnight, Beruthiel's
Cat, Faoiltierna, Pink Siamese, Esteliel, callerofcrows, Formegil and
Naltariel.

I will be emailing all of these authors later today to let them know
about the situation and to ask them to supply alternative URLs. However,
if you're on the list, please feel free to email us before then at
mefasupport-at-mefawards-dot-net and provide us with alternative URLs
for your stories. If you do not have the story archived elsewhere,
please also feel free to contact us at the same email address and we'll
do what we can to find another place for you to archive.

(Thanks also to Angmar for suggesting a way to possibly find the stories
in the short term by searching through Google and using the cached version.)

Tanaqui
MEFA Admin Team


Barbara Rich wrote:

>
>
> A moment ago I clicked on story #53, McHobbits.
>
> Instead of taking me to the story, the click took me to this URL:
> http://www.lotrfanfiction.com/ <http://www.lotrfanfiction.com/>
>
> It's an announcement the site has been suspended. This concerns me, because
> I know that there are several stories nominated that are located at this
> site, and there's no indication of when the site will be back up and
> running.
>
> Dreamflower

This is a disheartening situation as I love the LOTRFF archive because it allows for all ratings and any genre to be posted there. Since there is such a wide range of authors writing in various genres affected, might I recommend those authors be referred to HASA (which also allows any rating and genre including slash)? It might be a good alternative, at least to make sure the stories make it through MEFAs. I know some of those authors don't post elsewhere...

*hopes for the best*

NiRi

I also have quite a few stories archived there and I'd hate to see this site lost! As you've noted, the site hosts any genre and rating. Amazing to consider the volume it must have reached to have caused such a problem with hosting all those stories.

Cathleen

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "nierielraina" <equineinclined@...> wrote:
>
> This is a disheartening situation as I love the LOTRFF archive because it allows for all ratings and any genre to be posted there. Since there is such a wide range of authors writing in various genres affected, might I recommend those authors be referred to HASA (which also allows any rating and genre including slash)? It might be a good alternative, at least to make sure the stories make it through MEFAs. I know some of those authors don't post elsewhere...
>
> *hopes for the best*
>
> NiRi
>

Hi NiRi and Cathleen

I've been in touch with the webmaster at lotrfanfiction. While I
obviously can't speak for her, she's indicated that the donations drive
is likely to be successful enough for her to bring the site back online
in the next few days. Let's hope that's the case!

Tanaqui
The MEFA Admin Team


Cathleen wrote:

>
>
> I also have quite a few stories archived there and I'd hate to see this
> site lost! As you've noted, the site hosts any genre and rating. Amazing
> to consider the volume it must have reached to have caused such a
> problem with hosting all those stories.
>
> Cathleen
>
> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "nierielraina" <equineinclined@...> wrote:
> >
> > This is a disheartening situation as I love the LOTRFF archive
> because it allows for all ratings and any genre to be posted there.
> Since there is such a wide range of authors writing in various genres
> affected, might I recommend those authors be referred to HASA (which
> also allows any rating and genre including slash)? It might be a good
> alternative, at least to make sure the stories make it through MEFAs. I
> know some of those authors don't post elsewhere...
> >
> > *hopes for the best*
> >
> > NiRi
> >

TFF also allows any rating and genre.

Isabeau





-----Original Message-----
From: nierielraina <equineinclined@yahoo.com>
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Nov 26, 2009 2:14 pm
Subject: [MEFAwards] Re: Archive site suspension





This is a disheartening situation as I love the LOTRFF archive because it allows for all ratings and any genre to be posted there. Since there is such a wide range of authors writing in various genres affected, might I recommend those authors be referred to HASA (which also allows any rating and genre including slash)? It might be a good alternative, at least to make sure the stories make it through MEFAs. I know some of those authors don't post elsewhere...

*hopes for the best*

NiRi









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