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Msg# 176

Categorizers: Are you ready? Posted by Ainaechoiriel April 30, 2004 - 18:57:04 Topic ID# 176
Our categorizing volunteers are

Myself (Ainae)
Nerwin
Viv
Soledad
Andreth/Anna
Pervinca

Take 16 categories and divide that by 6 and you get
2.6666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666. but you get
the picture. So technically, we each need to take 2 2/3 categories. That's
sort of silly. So I will take three and let's see where that leaves us.

Assigning arbitrarily by the order on the FAQ:

I will take Men, Elves, and Hobbits.
Nerwin, you get Orcs, Rohan, and Numenor
Viv: Humor, Adventure, Drama
Soledad: Romance, Horror, Mystery
Andreth/Anna: Crossovers, The Silm, and LOTR

And one of us can volunteer to take the one remaining category: The Hobbit.
Who wants it?

Feel free to trade, so long as you do it politely.

The way I see this working is this:

When you see a nomination come in, and it has the 1st choice category as one
of your assignments, grab it. Copy and paste it somewhere if you like. Put
it in an Excel Spreadsheet or a table in Word, etc. I'm going to go with
the spreadsheet, because I like to be able to easily sort things
alphabetically. If anyone has Excel, but doesn't know how to make a
spreadsheet, I can make one up blank and send it to you. Just let me know.

Okay, so now you've got the information in the spreadsheet. Be sure to also
put it in the Nominations table in the Databases area of the Yahoo Site.
That is mainly to help people know if a story has already been nominated, so
that should go up pretty quick.

As you begin to gather nominations, you should perhaps start seeing some
similarities and groupings. Some nominators and/or authors will suggest
subcategories (such as Poetry or Filk). You may need to follow a link just
to get an idea of what kind of story it is. Start grouping them together.
If an author wants to change the suggested category, let them. Forward that
nomination on to whoever is assigned to that category.

By the end of the Nomination Season, we should have at least a starting idea
of the subcategories. Then we'll go over them all, checking for the 5 X 2
rule (five stories by at least two authors) for viability. Any subcategory
that can't make the 5 X 2 will have to be tweaked, maybe merged into the
main category or moved into a similarly fitting category or subcategory.

We can work on that in the Database Nominations Table if need be. We might
even schedule a chat sometime toward the end of Nom. Season.

Good luck!

--Ainaechoiriel

"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.

http://www.stormpages.com/gabrielle/lotr Land of Myth and Memory
Blog: http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com



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Msg# 192

Re: Categorizers: Are you ready? Posted by Soledad May 01, 2004 - 3:39:20 Topic ID# 176
Yeah, I am ready and willing. <g> And Romance/Horror/Mystery is fine
with me.

> And one of us can volunteer to take the one remaining category: The
Hobbit. Who wants it?

I can take The Hobbit if nobody else wants it.

> The way I see this working is this:

> When you see a nomination come in, and it has the 1st choice
category as one of your assignments, grab it.

Nominations will be coming in as regular group posts, right? Or am I
misunderstanding something?

> Copy and paste it somewhere if you like. Put it in an Excel
Spreadsheet or a table in Word, etc. I'm going to go with the
spreadsheet, because I like to be able to easily sort things
alphabetically. If anyone has Excel, but doesn't know how to make a
spreadsheet, I can make one up blank and send it to you. Just let me
know.

I do have Excel, but I never used it in my life. Is it very hard to
learn, when you've sent me a blank one?

> Okay, so now you've got the information in the spreadsheet.

Just a minute. Will this information contain everything that is on
the nomination form?

> Be sure to also put it in the Nominations table in the Databases
area of the Yahoo Site.

You see, this is the first thing I understand completely. <g>

> That is mainly to help people know if a story has already been
nominated, so that should go up pretty quick.

Right. That's a very good idea.

> As you begin to gather nominations, you should perhaps start seeing
some similarities and groupings. Some nominators and/or authors will
suggest subcategories (such as Poetry or Filk). You may need to
follow a link just to get an idea of what kind of story it is. Start
grouping them together.

Okay, I'll wait with *that* one until the nominations actually show
up.

> If an author wants to change the suggested category, let them.
Forward that nomination on to whoever is assigned to that category.

Okay, that seems clear enough.

> By the end of the Nomination Season, we should have at least a
starting idea of the subcategories. Then we'll go over them all,
checking for the 5 X 2 rule (five stories by at least two authors)
for viability. Any subcategory that can't make the 5 X 2 will have to
be tweaked, maybe merged into the main category or moved into a
similarly fitting category or subcategory.

Uhhh... okay, I'll ask for details when it becomes necessary. I
*think* I understand what you mean, just having heavy issues with
English at the moment...

> Good luck!

I think we'll need that. I've never done anything like this in my
life. But it sounds fun. :))

Soledad

Msg# 207

Re: Categorizers: Are you ready? Posted by Ainaechoiriel May 01, 2004 - 11:13:10 Topic ID# 176
Okay, got a few minutes while I wait for a friend to come over. Errands are
more fun with a friend. ;-)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Soledad [mailto:annaliess@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 3:39 AM
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MEFAwards] Re: Categorizers: Are you ready?
>
> Yeah, I am ready and willing. <g> And Romance/Horror/Mystery
> is fine with me.

Good to hear!

> I can take The Hobbit if nobody else wants it.

Great! Thanks!

> > The way I see this working is this:
>
> > When you see a nomination come in, and it has the 1st choice
> category as one of your assignments, grab it.
>
> Nominations will be coming in as regular group posts, right? Or am I
> misunderstanding something?

Yes! As regular posts. With Nomination somewhere in the subject line I
would hope, but still they'll be fairly obvious.

> I do have Excel, but I never used it in my life. Is it very hard to
> learn, when you've sent me a blank one?

I put a blank one in the Files section, Forms and Ballots folder.
Right-click the title and choose Save Target As and save it to your hard
drive somewhere you can easily find it. Oh wait, I'll send you one with four
tabs for your for catagories. I'll even label them for you.

I don't think you need to make it hard. Just copy the information in. I
think the only field that isn't on the spreadsheet is Nominator's Name,
because, well, we don't need it for voting!

> Just a minute. Will this information contain everything that is on
> the nomination form?

Yes.

> > Be sure to also put it in the Nominations table in the Databases
> area of the Yahoo Site.
>
> You see, this is the first thing I understand completely. <g>

I'm glad. If nothing else, we have this for a backup, and I plan on keeping
all the nominations posts for back-up reasons also.

> Right. That's a very good idea.

If we get duplicates, it's not a big deal. Just read them over; they might
have a better summary or something. Then move on to the next nomination. We
don't need to record more than one per story/essay/poem, etc.


> > As you begin to gather nominations, you should perhaps start seeing
> some similarities and groupings. Some nominators and/or authors will
> suggest subcategories (such as Poetry or Filk). You may need to
> follow a link just to get an idea of what kind of story it is. Start
> grouping them together.
>
> Okay, I'll wait with *that* one until the nominations actually show
> up.

Yeah, let that one wait.

> > By the end of the Nomination Season, we should have at least a
> starting idea of the subcategories. Then we'll go over them all,
> checking for the 5 X 2 rule (five stories by at least two authors)
> for viability. Any subcategory that can't make the 5 X 2 will have to
> be tweaked, maybe merged into the main category or moved into a
> similarly fitting category or subcategory.
>
> Uhhh... okay, I'll ask for details when it becomes necessary. I
> *think* I understand what you mean, just having heavy issues with
> English at the moment...

That can wait for a month and a half!

> I think we'll need that. I've never done anything like this in my
> life. But it sounds fun. :))

Well, I will call on my experience of recording all the answers to a survey
after Joss Whedon et al killed Doyle on Angel. 1100 responses we got in one
month! I put them all into an Access database. Exported the database into
Excel to make graphs. Took the info and the graphs into PowerPoint to make
a presentation and then converted that to HTML (PowerPoint, thankfully, did
that for me) and put it up on the web.

I suppose if I can do that, I can do this. Right? ;-)

--Ainaechoiriel
And the survey is still on the web if you'd like to see it. I think.

"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.

http://www.stormpages.com/gabrielle/lotr Land of Myth and Memory
Blog: http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com

Msg# 369

Re: Categorizers: Are you ready? Posted by Viv May 04, 2004 - 10:50:32 Topic ID# 176
Sounds faboo. Anna, you need any help with the overwhelming number if
Silmfics, just let me know ;)

Shall get my, um, table put together tonight. Sorry I'm behind, as
usual!

viv

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Ainaechoiriel" <mefaadmin@e...>
wrote:
> Viv: Humor, Adventure, Drama
> Soledad: Romance, Horror, Mystery
> Andreth/Anna: Crossovers, The Silm, and LOTR