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I had one comment about the Author awards that I forgot to mention
earlier.

Often some authors will write something with other authors, but also
by themselves. For example, I believe Altariel and Isabeau both wrote
individual pieces in the LotR category but they also wrote "Horses and
Verses" together. Therefore LotR/Authors had three entries: Altariel,
Isabeau, and Altariel&Isabeau. Comments made for A&I counted toward
neither A nor I.

Could an author request that they don't have a joint listing? I.e.,
Altariel and Isabeau could decide to have "Horses and Verses" listed
under both of their names (and so no A&I entry), or to have cowritten
stories listed under a collective name. Here are the two options, as I
see it:

*****
Option 1:

A1. Altariel:
[stories written alone]
"Horses and Verses" (co-written with Isabeau)

A2. Isabeau:
[stories written alone]
"Horses and Verses" (co-written with Altariel)

*****
Option 2:
A1. Altariel:
[stories written alone]

A2. Isabeau:
[stories written alone

A3. Altariel and Isabeau:
"Horses and Verses"

*****

I think many authors might prefer option 1. I know I would have, and
would want it even more if reviewers were allow to post the same
author comment in more than one category.

Maybe we could have the default be option 1, but if writers *only* or
*mainly* write as a pair (i.e., Cassia and Siobhan) they could ask to
be listed together. (We could remind authors of this when we're
writing them to ask how they want their stories categorized.)

What do you think?

Marta

My opinion would be that the authors should be commented upon as individuals for the stories they wrote alone, and commented upon as a team for stories they wrote together.

After all, when you are judging their skill as authors, a large part of what you are judging in a co-author situation is how well the two authors write *together* - that's a totally separate thing from how they write as individuals. Co-authors have to meld their personal writing styles so that their story doesn't read as if two people wrote it (unless that is their intention with a specific piece)- both of them need to be able to mesh their own style so that the transition from one author to another is not noticable. It is a shame when it's evident in an otherwise decent story that Author A wrote this paragraph, and Author B wrote the next.

Marigold

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>I had one comment about the Author awards that I forgot to mention
>earlier.
>
>Often some authors will write something with other authors, but also
>by themselves. For example, I believe Altariel and Isabeau both wrote
>individual pieces in the LotR category but they also wrote "Horses and
>Verses" together. Therefore LotR/Authors had three entries: Altariel,
>Isabeau, and Altariel&Isabeau. Comments made for A&I counted toward
>neither A nor I.
>
>Could an author request that they don't have a joint listing? I.e.,
>Altariel and Isabeau could decide to have "Horses and Verses" listed
>under both of their names (and so no A&I entry), or to have cowritten
>stories listed under a collective name. Here are the two options, as I
>see it:
>
>*****
>Option 1:
>
>A1. Altariel:
>[stories written alone]
>"Horses and Verses" (co-written with Isabeau)
>
>A2. Isabeau:
>[stories written alone]
>"Horses and Verses" (co-written with Altariel)
>
>*****
>Option 2:
>A1. Altariel:
>[stories written alone]
>
>A2. Isabeau:
>[stories written alone
>
>A3. Altariel and Isabeau:
>"Horses and Verses"
>
>*****
>
>I think many authors might prefer option 1. I know I would have, and
>would want it even more if reviewers were allow to post the same
>author comment in more than one category.
>
>Maybe we could have the default be option 1, but if writers *only* or
>*mainly* write as a pair (i.e., Cassia and Siobhan) they could ask to
>be listed together. (We could remind authors of this when we're
>writing them to ask how they want their stories categorized.)
>
>What do you think?
>
>Marta
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Sam, in Mordor, RoTK

I agree with Marigold. When reviewing an individual author, you are
reviewing that author. But when you are reviewing co-authors, you are
reviewing the team.

--Ainaechoiriel
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-----Original Message-----
From: MarigoldCotton@aol.com [mailto:MarigoldCotton@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 7:08 PM
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] PM - Author Comments for Co-authored stories


My opinion would be that the authors should be commented upon as individuals
for the stories they wrote alone, and commented upon as a team for stories
they wrote together.

After all, when you are judging their skill as authors, a large part of what
you are judging in a co-author situation is how well the two authors write
*together* - that's a totally separate thing from how they write as
individuals. Co-authors have to meld their personal writing styles so that
their story doesn't read as if two people wrote it (unless that is their
intention with a specific piece)- both of them need to be able to mesh their
own style so that the transition from one author to another is not
noticable. It is a shame when it's evident in an otherwise decent story that
Author A wrote this paragraph, and Author B wrote the next.

Marigold

>
>
>I had one comment about the Author awards that I forgot to mention
>earlier.
>
>Often some authors will write something with other authors, but also by
>themselves. For example, I believe Altariel and Isabeau both wrote
>individual pieces in the LotR category but they also wrote "Horses and
>Verses" together. Therefore LotR/Authors had three entries: Altariel,
>Isabeau, and Altariel&Isabeau. Comments made for A&I counted toward
>neither A nor I.
>
>Could an author request that they don't have a joint listing? I.e.,
>Altariel and Isabeau could decide to have "Horses and Verses" listed
>under both of their names (and so no A&I entry), or to have cowritten
>stories listed under a collective name. Here are the two options, as I
>see it:
>
>*****
>Option 1:
>
>A1. Altariel:
>[stories written alone]
>"Horses and Verses" (co-written with Isabeau)
>
>A2. Isabeau:
>[stories written alone]
>"Horses and Verses" (co-written with Altariel)
>
>*****
>Option 2:
>A1. Altariel:
>[stories written alone]
>
>A2. Isabeau:
>[stories written alone
>
>A3. Altariel and Isabeau:
>"Horses and Verses"
>
>*****
>
>I think many authors might prefer option 1. I know I would have, and
>would want it even more if reviewers were allow to post the same author
>comment in more than one category.
>
>Maybe we could have the default be option 1, but if writers *only* or
>*mainly* write as a pair (i.e., Cassia and Siobhan) they could ask to
>be listed together. (We could remind authors of this when we're writing
>them to ask how they want their stories categorized.)
>
>What do you think?
>
>Marta
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
Marigold's Red Book
http://marigoldsredbook.crickhollow.net/

Marigold's Recommendations Page
http://www.geocities.com/marigoldsrecommendations/

Marigold's Live Journal
http://www.livejournal.com/users/marigoldg/

Tales of The Red Book
http://www.livejournal.com/users/talesofredbook/

There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the
mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for awhile. The beauty of it smote
his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to
him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the
end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high
beauty for ever beyond its reach.

Sam, in Mordor, RoTK



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--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Ainaechoiriel" <mefaadmin@e...>
wrote:

> I agree with Marigold. When reviewing an individual author, you are
> reviewing that author. But when you are reviewing co-authors, you

are

> reviewing the team.
>

After reading Marigold's post, I agree with her as well. Consider me
convinced. :-)

(Does that mean I don't have more suggestions? Heck no... )

Marta