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Msg# 3056

Re: Awards Mistake.  Oh dear... Posted by MarigoldCotton@aol.com December 07, 2004 - 15:18:13 Topic ID# 3056
Hmmm...I would say that it wouldn't be right at all to take away SilverMoonLady's award because of an administrative error that was caught this far after the announcement of the winners.

You say that the tie for third place was broken, so that she ultimately was given the prize at the time...so should that other story really be brought into this at all at this point? But I am actually a bit confused as to how the tie would actually have been broken, as wouldn't SilverMoonLady and the person she tied with both have got the award?

Anyway, my tuppance would be to give the award to both SilverMoonLady and Ariel at this late stage. It's perfectly reasonable that there be an error or two with something that is this much work, but neither author should be penalised by something that was an administrative error.

Marigold

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>We mistakenly gave SilvermoonLady the 3rd place Award for Hobbits
>(General), when it should have gone to Ariel for "Of Dwarvish Ale and
>the Fairer Sex."
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>The lattter had 23 points while SilvermoonLady's had 21.  Somehow we
>overlooked it.  Or rather, I did.  Either way, I'm very sorry.
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>So, of course, Ariel should go ahead and get the Thain award banner
>for it.  But what do we do about Silvermoon Lady?  Do we tell her she
>must give it up?  Or do we let them both keep them?  The latter
>wouldn't really be fair because it tied with another story and the
>other story wasn't mistakenly given 3rd place (because the tie was
>broken).
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>SilvermoonLady, Ariel (if you're out there?) What do you want to do?
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Msg# 3058

RE: [MEFAwards] Awards Mistake.  Oh dear... Posted by Ainaechoiriel December 07, 2004 - 15:34:07 Topic ID# 3056
Thanks. Ties are broken according to the FAQ, first by number of comments,
then by total number of characters. And you can see the breakdown in the
Tie Breaker database. Here is is for those two stories in question:

Hob6 Moonlight on Summer Leaves 21 4 1897
Hob8 Recollections 21 4 1987

Since the other story didn't receive an award in the first place, do we let
it go? Nothing to take away?

I'd like to get SilvermoonLady's and Ariel's opinion on this. I'm with you
that neither should be penalized because of adminstrative mistakes.

--Ainaechoiriel
MEFA Admin and Founder

"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.

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-----Original Message-----
From: MarigoldCotton@aol.com [mailto:MarigoldCotton@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 3:18 PM
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] Awards Mistake. Oh dear...


Hmmm...I would say that it wouldn't be right at all to take away
SilverMoonLady's award because of an administrative error that was caught
this far after the announcement of the winners.

You say that the tie for third place was broken, so that she ultimately was
given the prize at the time...so should that other story really be brought
into this at all at this point? But I am actually a bit confused as to how
the tie would actually have been broken, as wouldn't SilverMoonLady and the
person she tied with both have got the award?

Anyway, my tuppance would be to give the award to both SilverMoonLady and
Ariel at this late stage. It's perfectly reasonable that there be an error
or two with something that is this much work, but neither author should be
penalised by something that was an administrative error.

Marigold

>
>
>Now the question is what do we do about it?
>
>We mistakenly gave SilvermoonLady the 3rd place Award for Hobbits
>(General), when it should have gone to Ariel for "Of Dwarvish Ale and
>the Fairer Sex."
>
>The lattter had 23 points while SilvermoonLady's had 21.  Somehow we
>overlooked it.  Or rather, I did.  Either way, I'm very sorry.
>
>So, of course, Ariel should go ahead and get the Thain award banner for
>it.  But what do we do about Silvermoon Lady?  Do we tell her she must
>give it up?  Or do we let them both keep them?  The latter wouldn't
>really be fair because it tied with another story and the other story
>wasn't mistakenly given 3rd place (because the tie was broken).
>
>SilvermoonLady, Ariel (if you're out there?) What do you want to do?
>
>--Ainaechoiriel
>MEFA Admin and Founder
>
>"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said,
>"for it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.
>
>http://gabrielle.sytes.net/mefa The Middle-Earth Fanfiction Awards
>Blog: http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com
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Marigold's Red Book
http://marigoldsredbook.crickhollow.net/

Marigold's Recommendations Page
http://www.geocities.com/marigoldsrecommendations/

Marigold's Live Journal
http://www.livejournal.com/users/marigoldg/

Tales of The Red Book
http://www.livejournal.com/users/talesofredbook/

There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the
mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for awhile. The beauty of it smote
his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to
him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the
end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high
beauty for ever beyond its reach.

Sam, in Mordor, RoTK





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