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Msg# 3166
A couple days off, a couple days left. Post Mortem recap Posted by Ainaechoiriel December 22, 2004 - 0:26:49 Topic ID# 3166I've been spending my evenings working on a dress for my sister's birthday.
It just got tricky.
On to the post mortem:
Okay, I've got through the database and finalized a few more decisions. And
some are still left open. Some will go to polls.
1) Author Comments: Keep? Change? Lose?
We're keeping them. I'm going to go with the "it's okay to copy your author
comments" for now. The only way this will change for 2005 is if our
electronic stuff (aphasia alert) changes how we can vote. (more on this
when we've got the electronic stuff figured out, but Anthony had a great
idea.)
I will post some examples from the ASC Awards.
Which leads to...
1a) copying to generate author comments allowed (though preferably with
alterations)
Yep.
2) Cutoff dates for eligible WIP stories
Yes, as voted by poll. WIPs must be updated within the last year.
3) Honorable Mentions
Yes. Non-winning ties will get one. But who else? Someone within how many
points from 3rd place? See the poll. Vote.
4) Indicate size of story (by word count, or chapter stories vs. one-off
stories)
Yes, but for now only for info. Authors will be given suggestions based on
word count. They will choose their stories' sizes. If someone wishes to
keep stats, we'll see how this falls for possible categorization next year.
5) Limiting the length of quotes used in votes
Yes, to inline quotes and only two sentences or less.
This may also change based on the electronic stuff. We'll see what it can
do. I'll leave it as unfinalized for now.
7) WIPs: only the first few chapters considered
No, not this year. May come up again next year.
8) add comments after contest marked "written after contest in (year of
addition)"
No, send those comments to the author or host your own rec site.
9) spawn subcats to achieve an evenly distribution of fics (5-15?) per
subcategory
No, let the nominations fall as they may. We will decide on an upward limit
that will create a new category when appropriate. (This is not appropriate
for all categories. Must be decided by Staff on an individual basis.)
10) New one: Start one month earlier so we don't end voting on Halloween
The poll decided that Voting Season will remain 1 1/5 months long. So what
if we start in April instead of May so as to end in late September rather
than at Halloween.
And now let's talk about banners.
I'm okay with standardizing the size. I'll try to post a few sizes and get
a poll going to decide which one is best.
Can anyone think of an easy way to get all the info on the banners? Viv did
it this year. And I like the uniformity of the base while the banners are
still distinct and creative.
I'll get the FAQ updated with the present decisions tomorrow. It's past my
bed time. ;-)
--Ainaechoiriel
MEFA Admin and Founder
"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.
http://gabrielle.sytes.net/mefa The Middle-Earth Fanfiction Awards
Blog: <http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com/>
http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com
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It just got tricky.
On to the post mortem:
Okay, I've got through the database and finalized a few more decisions. And
some are still left open. Some will go to polls.
1) Author Comments: Keep? Change? Lose?
We're keeping them. I'm going to go with the "it's okay to copy your author
comments" for now. The only way this will change for 2005 is if our
electronic stuff (aphasia alert) changes how we can vote. (more on this
when we've got the electronic stuff figured out, but Anthony had a great
idea.)
I will post some examples from the ASC Awards.
Which leads to...
1a) copying to generate author comments allowed (though preferably with
alterations)
Yep.
2) Cutoff dates for eligible WIP stories
Yes, as voted by poll. WIPs must be updated within the last year.
3) Honorable Mentions
Yes. Non-winning ties will get one. But who else? Someone within how many
points from 3rd place? See the poll. Vote.
4) Indicate size of story (by word count, or chapter stories vs. one-off
stories)
Yes, but for now only for info. Authors will be given suggestions based on
word count. They will choose their stories' sizes. If someone wishes to
keep stats, we'll see how this falls for possible categorization next year.
5) Limiting the length of quotes used in votes
Yes, to inline quotes and only two sentences or less.
This may also change based on the electronic stuff. We'll see what it can
do. I'll leave it as unfinalized for now.
7) WIPs: only the first few chapters considered
No, not this year. May come up again next year.
8) add comments after contest marked "written after contest in (year of
addition)"
No, send those comments to the author or host your own rec site.
9) spawn subcats to achieve an evenly distribution of fics (5-15?) per
subcategory
No, let the nominations fall as they may. We will decide on an upward limit
that will create a new category when appropriate. (This is not appropriate
for all categories. Must be decided by Staff on an individual basis.)
10) New one: Start one month earlier so we don't end voting on Halloween
The poll decided that Voting Season will remain 1 1/5 months long. So what
if we start in April instead of May so as to end in late September rather
than at Halloween.
And now let's talk about banners.
I'm okay with standardizing the size. I'll try to post a few sizes and get
a poll going to decide which one is best.
Can anyone think of an easy way to get all the info on the banners? Viv did
it this year. And I like the uniformity of the base while the banners are
still distinct and creative.
I'll get the FAQ updated with the present decisions tomorrow. It's past my
bed time. ;-)
--Ainaechoiriel
MEFA Admin and Founder
"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.
http://gabrielle.sytes.net/mefa The Middle-Earth Fanfiction Awards
Blog: <http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com/>
http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com
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Msg# 3168
Re: A couple days off, a couple days left. Post Mortem recap Posted by Naresha December 22, 2004 - 4:40:23 Topic ID# 3166All sound like good ideas!!! Was just wondering if you got my suggestion about Unfinished stories as well as WIPs???
Resha.
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Resha.
~To forgive calls upon our love, to forget calls upon our strength~
AIM: Naresha21 MSN: candyman_gypsy@hotmail.com
ICQ: 142117881 Yahoo: fruitcake5m1
Personal LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/nareshaninya/
Writing LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/writingsofresha/
My Website! Slash Me Happy
http://www.websamba.com/SlashMeHappy
http://quiz.ravenblack.net/blood.pl?biter=Resha
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Msg# 3170
Re: A couple days off, a couple days left. Post Mortem recap Posted by Ainaechoiriel December 22, 2004 - 10:15:03 Topic ID# 3166-----Original Message-----
From: Naresha [mailto:north_shore_fruitcake@yahoo.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 4:40 AM
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] A couple days off, a couple days left. Post Mortem
recap
To be honest, I don't quite understand it. Unfinished and WIPs to me are the
same thing.
--Ainaechoiriel
MEFA Admin and Founder
"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.
http://gabrielle.sytes.net/mefa The Middle-Earth Fanfiction Awards
Blog: http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com
From: Naresha [mailto:north_shore_fruitcake@yahoo.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 4:40 AM
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] A couple days off, a couple days left. Post Mortem
recap
>All sound like good ideas!!! Was just wondering if you got my suggestionabout Unfinished stories as well as WIPs???
To be honest, I don't quite understand it. Unfinished and WIPs to me are the
same thing.
--Ainaechoiriel
MEFA Admin and Founder
"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.
http://gabrielle.sytes.net/mefa The Middle-Earth Fanfiction Awards
Blog: http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com
Msg# 3171
Re: A couple days off, a couple days left. Post Mortem recap Posted by Naresha December 22, 2004 - 10:39:13 Topic ID# 3166Ainaechoiriel <mefaadmin@earthlink.net> wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Naresha [mailto:north_shore_fruitcake@yahoo.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 4:40 AM
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] A couple days off, a couple days left. Post Mortem
recap
e.g. Story X hasn't been worked on since June 04. That falls into the last 12mths, so it is classed as a WIP.
Story Y on the other hand, hasn't been updated since November 03 - that is more than 12mths ago - therefore it is classed as an Unfinished story.
Pretty much the difference I'm trying to get to is that WIPs are seen as still being worked upon, whereas Unfinisheds are looked upon as most liking abandoned works - but they still have merit as a story none-the-less.
That make it any clearer???
Resha
~To forgive calls upon our love, to forget calls upon our strength~
AIM: Naresha21 MSN: candyman_gypsy@hotmail.com
ICQ: 142117881 Yahoo: fruitcake5m1
Personal LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/nareshaninya/
Writing LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/writingsofresha/
My Website! Slash Me Happy
http://www.websamba.com/SlashMeHappy
http://quiz.ravenblack.net/blood.pl?biter=Resha
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-----Original Message-----
From: Naresha [mailto:north_shore_fruitcake@yahoo.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 4:40 AM
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] A couple days off, a couple days left. Post Mortem
recap
>All sound like good ideas!!! Was just wondering if you got my suggestionabout Unfinished stories as well as WIPs???
> To be honest, I don't quite understand it.Ah!!! Well what I was suggesting was that - given we had been talking about cutting WIPs to only allow storys that had been updated with in the last 12mths - - was create a new category for stories that HAVEN'T been updated within the last year.
> Unfinished and WIPs to me are the same thing.
e.g. Story X hasn't been worked on since June 04. That falls into the last 12mths, so it is classed as a WIP.
Story Y on the other hand, hasn't been updated since November 03 - that is more than 12mths ago - therefore it is classed as an Unfinished story.
Pretty much the difference I'm trying to get to is that WIPs are seen as still being worked upon, whereas Unfinisheds are looked upon as most liking abandoned works - but they still have merit as a story none-the-less.
That make it any clearer???
Resha
~To forgive calls upon our love, to forget calls upon our strength~
AIM: Naresha21 MSN: candyman_gypsy@hotmail.com
ICQ: 142117881 Yahoo: fruitcake5m1
Personal LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/nareshaninya/
Writing LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/writingsofresha/
My Website! Slash Me Happy
http://www.websamba.com/SlashMeHappy
http://quiz.ravenblack.net/blood.pl?biter=Resha
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Msg# 3172
Re: A couple days off, a couple days left. Post Mortem recap Posted by Ainaechoiriel December 22, 2004 - 10:50:28 Topic ID# 3166Okay, I see the difference you are making. What do others think about
allowing these "unfinished" stories in a separate category or subcategory?
I think part of the reason people voted for putting a limit on the WIPs (1
year upedated) because they tend to not like to read a story that's
abandoned.
Other thoughts?
--Ainaechoiriel
MEFA Admin and Founder
"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.
http://gabrielle.sytes.net/mefa The Middle-Earth Fanfiction Awards
Blog: http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Naresha [mailto:north_shore_fruitcake@yahoo.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:39 AM
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] A couple days off, a couple days left. Post Mortem
recap
Ainaechoiriel <mefaadmin@earthlink.net> wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Naresha [mailto:north_shore_fruitcake@yahoo.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 4:40 AM
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] A couple days off, a couple days left. Post Mortem
recap
cutting WIPs to only allow storys that had been updated with in the last
12mths - - was create a new category for stories that HAVEN'T been updated
within the last year.
e.g. Story X hasn't been worked on since June 04. That falls into the last
12mths, so it is classed as a WIP.
Story Y on the other hand, hasn't been updated since November 03 - that is
more than 12mths ago - therefore it is classed as an Unfinished story.
Pretty much the difference I'm trying to get to is that WIPs are seen as
still being worked upon, whereas Unfinisheds are looked upon as most liking
abandoned works - but they still have merit as a story none-the-less.
That make it any clearer???
Resha
~To forgive calls upon our love, to forget calls upon our strength~
AIM: Naresha21 MSN: candyman_gypsy@hotmail.com
ICQ: 142117881 Yahoo: fruitcake5m1
Personal LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/nareshaninya/
Writing LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/writingsofresha/
My Website! Slash Me Happy
http://www.websamba.com/SlashMeHappy
http://quiz.ravenblack.net/blood.pl?biter=Resha
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allowing these "unfinished" stories in a separate category or subcategory?
I think part of the reason people voted for putting a limit on the WIPs (1
year upedated) because they tend to not like to read a story that's
abandoned.
Other thoughts?
--Ainaechoiriel
MEFA Admin and Founder
"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.
http://gabrielle.sytes.net/mefa The Middle-Earth Fanfiction Awards
Blog: http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Naresha [mailto:north_shore_fruitcake@yahoo.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:39 AM
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] A couple days off, a couple days left. Post Mortem
recap
Ainaechoiriel <mefaadmin@earthlink.net> wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Naresha [mailto:north_shore_fruitcake@yahoo.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 4:40 AM
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] A couple days off, a couple days left. Post Mortem
recap
>All sound like good ideas!!! Was just wondering if you got my suggestionabout Unfinished stories as well as WIPs???
> To be honest, I don't quite understand it.Ah!!! Well what I was suggesting was that - given we had been talking about
> Unfinished and WIPs to me are the same thing.
cutting WIPs to only allow storys that had been updated with in the last
12mths - - was create a new category for stories that HAVEN'T been updated
within the last year.
e.g. Story X hasn't been worked on since June 04. That falls into the last
12mths, so it is classed as a WIP.
Story Y on the other hand, hasn't been updated since November 03 - that is
more than 12mths ago - therefore it is classed as an Unfinished story.
Pretty much the difference I'm trying to get to is that WIPs are seen as
still being worked upon, whereas Unfinisheds are looked upon as most liking
abandoned works - but they still have merit as a story none-the-less.
That make it any clearer???
Resha
~To forgive calls upon our love, to forget calls upon our strength~
AIM: Naresha21 MSN: candyman_gypsy@hotmail.com
ICQ: 142117881 Yahoo: fruitcake5m1
Personal LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/nareshaninya/
Writing LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/writingsofresha/
My Website! Slash Me Happy
http://www.websamba.com/SlashMeHappy
http://quiz.ravenblack.net/blood.pl?biter=Resha
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Msg# 3173
Re: A couple days off, a couple days left. Post Mortem recap Posted by sulriel December 22, 2004 - 10:57:55 Topic ID# 3166I tend not to read WIPs and wouldn't read/vote in an Unfinished
Category, but if enough people feel it is a worthwhile category, it's
easy enough for me to skip over.
I suppose the only downside would be the work for the admin.
Sulriel
--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Ainaechoiriel" <mefaadmin@e...>
wrote:> Okay, I see the difference you are making. What do others
think about> allowing these "unfinished" stories in a separate
category or subcategory?
that's> abandoned.
Category, but if enough people feel it is a worthwhile category, it's
easy enough for me to skip over.
I suppose the only downside would be the work for the admin.
Sulriel
--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Ainaechoiriel" <mefaadmin@e...>
wrote:> Okay, I see the difference you are making. What do others
think about> allowing these "unfinished" stories in a separate
category or subcategory?
>WIPs (1> year upedated) because they tend to not like to read a story
> I think part of the reason people voted for putting a limit on the
that's> abandoned.
>
> Other thoughts?
>
> --Ainaechoiriel
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