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Okay, most of the new suggestions are up in the polls. But there are a few
that are not. Yet.

1) Fourth Age and Beyond
While it sounds good, it might cause some confusion as to when the
Fourth Age actually began. I have suggested a Post-War of the Ring and
Beyond as a rewording. It doesn't sound as good but it might be easier.
Any other suggestions?

2) Suspense
The idea here is to group Horror and Mystery together. Any other
suggestions on a category name that could encompass the two?

3) Non-Fiction
This would encompass anything not poetry or fiction. I don't want "critical
essays" because I don't want the word 'critical" in there. But there are
other options: Essay, Article, etc. What should we use?


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--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Ainaechoiriel" <mefaadmin@e...>
wrote:> Okay, most of the new suggestions are up in the polls. But
there are a few> that are not. Yet.

>
> 1) Fourth Age and Beyond
> While it sounds good, it might cause some confusion as to when

the> Fourth Age actually began. I have suggested a Post-War of the
Ring and> Beyond as a rewording. It doesn't sound as good but it
might be easier.> Any other suggestions?


I like Post-WotR and Beyond.
my only other thought would be to have a 'modern' category, which
would be anything set in a real-world historical context

> > 2) Suspense
> The idea here is to group Horror and Mystery together. Any other
> suggestions on a category name that could encompass the two?

Suspense is good, and if there are enough to sub-cate, then you can
split horror, mystery and whatever.

> > 3) Non-Fiction
> This would encompass anything not poetry or fiction. I don't

want "critical> essays" because I don't want the word 'critical" in
there. But there are> other options: Essay, Article, etc. What
should we use?>

again, I would suggest simply going with 'Non-fiction' and split into
sub-cates if obvious ones become viable. I see an essay as a
presentation of an opinion on a matter and an article more of a
informational, factual collection of research. I'm sure that other
people might have different definitions, and non-fiction would be
more inclusive as a main category.

Sulriel

Although Post-WotR and Beyond doesn't sound that great, it will lessen
the confusion, which is always a good thing. Besides, it doesn't sound
THAT horrible.

Joining Horror and Mystery together by creating Suspense sounds like a
good idea. At the top of my head, I can't think of anything better.

I think Articles/Essays will be fine, but I don't like Non-Fiction.

Well, there's my two slips of latinum.

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:13:31 -0600, Ainaechoiriel
<mefaadmin@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
> Okay, most of the new suggestions are up in the polls. But there are a few
> that are not. Yet.
>
> 1) Fourth Age and Beyond
> While it sounds good, it might cause some confusion as to when the
> Fourth Age actually began. I have suggested a Post-War of the Ring and
> Beyond as a rewording. It doesn't sound as good but it might be easier.
> Any other suggestions?
>
> 2) Suspense
> The idea here is to group Horror and Mystery together. Any other
> suggestions on a category name that could encompass the two?
>
> 3) Non-Fiction
> This would encompass anything not poetry or fiction. I don't want "critical
> essays" because I don't want the word 'critical" in there. But there are
> other options: Essay, Article, etc. What should we use?
>
> --Ainaechoiriel
> MEFA Admin and Founder
>
> "This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
> it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.
>
> http://gabrielle.sytes.net/mefa The Middle-Earth Fanfiction Awards
> Blog: <http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com/>
> http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com

> 1) Fourth Age and Beyond
> While it sounds good, it might cause some confusion as to when

the

> Fourth Age actually began. I have suggested a Post-War of the Ring

and

> Beyond as a rewording. It doesn't sound as good but it might be

easier.

> Any other suggestions?
>

How about just post-Ring War?

I know that the Fourth Age officially begins when the Ringbearers
sailed from the Grey Havens, but for me post-Ring War is a little more
encompassing. For me, the post-RW era begins at different points for
different races.

Men - anything post-"Many Partings". So Eowyn's and Faramir's wedding
would be post-Ring War even though it occurred during the Third Age.

Hobbits - post-Grey Havens. The Occupation and subsequent Scouring are
really tied to the Ring War because Saruman went there kind of to take
revenge on the Hobbits, I think. And all of the other post-Scouring
but pre-Havens events are so tied to book events, I think they're very
different from other post-Ring War stories.

Elves - In the case of those Elves who came to Minas Tirith, post-
"Many Partings". For the others, post-Fall of Dol Guldur.

I think it really comes to what the author thinks - is it a gapfiller
to events in LotR (even if those events occur after the Ring's
destruction)? If so, it probably belongs somewhere else (perhaps in
LotR). Or is it an extrapolation into the Fourth Age or beyond, maybe
based on the Appendices? If so, it probably goes here in post-Ring
War.

> 2) Suspense
> The idea here is to group Horror and Mystery together. Any other
> suggestions on a category name that could encompass the two?
>

I know I suggested this, but I think most people suggested we try to
make both categories viable instead of combining them?

> 3) Non-Fiction
> This would encompass anything not poetry or fiction. I don't want

"critical

> essays" because I don't want the word 'critical" in there. But

there are

> other options: Essay, Article, etc. What should we use?
>

Nonfiction works good to me. Essay and Article have different
connotations, I think: essay suggests you're presenting a certain
viewpoint, article that you're trying to present all the facts without
bias.

Marta

-----Original Message-----
From: Marta [mailto:MartaL0712@netscape.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 5:54 PM
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MEFAwards] Re: Category PM, a few things still

> 1) Fourth Age and Beyond

>How about just post-Ring War?

Sounds better.

>I know that the Fourth Age officially begins when the Ringbearers sailed

from the Grey Havens, but for me post-Ring War is a little more
encompassing. For me, the post-RW era begins at different points for
different races.

>Men - anything post-"Many Partings". So Eowyn's and Faramir's wedding would

be post-Ring War even though it occurred during the Third Age.

>Hobbits - post-Grey Havens. The Occupation and subsequent Scouring are

really tied to the Ring War because Saruman went there kind of to take
revenge on the Hobbits, I think. And all of the other post-Scouring but
pre-Havens events are so tied to book events, I think they're very different
from other post-Ring War stories.

>Elves - In the case of those Elves who came to Minas Tirith, post- "Many

Partings". For the others, post-Fall of Dol Guldur.

>I think it really comes to what the author thinks - is it a gapfiller to

events in LotR (even if those events occur after the Ring's destruction)? If
so, it probably belongs somewhere else (perhaps in LotR). Or is it an
extrapolation into the Fourth Age or beyond, maybe based on the Appendices?
If so, it probably goes here in post-Ring War.

Well, if we have this category, we'll have to just let the authors decide if
it's Post-Ring War or LOTR or whatever. We can't have four different times
of demarkation for Post-Ring War. That would be just as confusing as Fourth
Age is for some people. Maybe even more so. So we'll just say Post-Ring
War and leave it at that.

This goes to poll.

As do the others.

Thanks for your comments, Marta, Sulriel, and Bridiliel.

> 2) Suspense
> The idea here is to group Horror and Mystery together. Any other
> suggestions on a category name that could encompass the two?
>

>I know I suggested this, but I think most people suggested we try to make

both categories viable instead of combining them?

Made it a poll question.

> 3) Non-Fiction
> This would encompass anything not poetry or fiction. I don't want

"critical

> essays" because I don't want the word 'critical" in there. But

there are

> other options: Essay, Article, etc. What should we use?
>

>Nonfiction works good to me. Essay and Article have different connotations,

I think: essay suggests you're presenting a certain viewpoint, article that
you're trying to present all the facts without bias.

This is also a poll.

Bridiliel said:

>I think Articles/Essays will be fine, but I don't like Non-Fiction.

I do think Non-Fiction works best. We don't want a category with a / in
the title because / separates categories from their subcategories.


--Ainaechoiriel
MEFA Admin and Founder

"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.

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