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Msg# 3668

Short Stories and Vignettes? Posted by Medea "Werecat" Silverclaws April 04, 2005 - 8:32:07 Topic ID# 3668
Hi all.

Just a question that has been troubling me: what's the difference
between a short story and a vignette?

This has been explained to me before, but I still don't get it. I
search through the site's FAQ and couldn't find any info on this, so if
one of you could clarify this for me, I'd be most thankful.

Thanks,
Werecat

Msg# 3671

Re: Short Stories and Vignettes? Posted by Ainaechoiriel April 04, 2005 - 8:48:19 Topic ID# 3668
A vignette is just one scene. No more. As such, it generally is short, but
it's a particular format of short story.

A short story may have several scenes but still be only 25,00 wors or so.

My story Immortal, is almost a vignette. But I stuck a little tag scene on
at the end, using a different POV than the rest of the story. Thus it is
not a vignette. My story, Namesake, on the other hand is only one scene and
a very short scene at that. It is a vignette.

--Ainaechoiriel

MEFA Admin and Founder

"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.

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Blog: http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Medea "Werecat" Silverclaws [mailto:tashenubaste@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:31 AM
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MEFAwards] Short Stories and Vignettes?
>
>
>
> Hi all.
>
> Just a question that has been troubling me: what's the
> difference between a short story and a vignette?
>
> This has been explained to me before, but I still don't get
> it. I search through the site's FAQ and couldn't find any
> info on this, so if one of you could clarify this for me, I'd
> be most thankful.
>
> Thanks,
> Werecat
>
>
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Msg# 3672

Re: Short Stories and Vignettes? Posted by Cats and Werecats April 04, 2005 - 9:10:41 Topic ID# 3668
Thanks, Ainae! Now I get it.

Werecat


--- Ainaechoiriel <mefaadmin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> A vignette is just one scene. No more. As such, it generally
> is short, but
> it's a particular format of short story.
>
> A short story may have several scenes but still be only 25,00
> wors or so.
>
> My story Immortal, is almost a vignette. But I stuck a little
> tag scene on
> at the end, using a different POV than the rest of the story.
> Thus it is
> not a vignette. My story, Namesake, on the other hand is only
> one scene and
> a very short scene at that. It is a vignette.
>
> --Ainaechoiriel
>
> MEFA Admin and Founder
>
> "This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves,"
> Elrond said, "for
> it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.
>
> http://gabrielle.sytes.net/mefa The Middle-Earth Fanfiction
> Awards
>
> Blog: http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Medea "Werecat" Silverclaws
> [mailto:tashenubaste@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:31 AM
> > To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [MEFAwards] Short Stories and Vignettes?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > Just a question that has been troubling me: what's the
> > difference between a short story and a vignette?
> >
> > This has been explained to me before, but I still don't get
> > it. I search through the site's FAQ and couldn't find any
> > info on this, so if one of you could clarify this for me,
> I'd
> > be most thankful.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Werecat
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Msg# 3678

Re: Short Stories and Vignettes? Posted by Marta Layton April 04, 2005 - 11:49:59 Topic ID# 3668
On Apr 4, 2005 9:47 AM, Ainaechoiriel <mefaadmin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> A vignette is just one scene. No more. As such, it generally is short,
> but
> it's a particular format of short story.
>
> A short story may have several scenes but still be only 25,00 wors or so.
>

Can a series of vignettes be nominated in the vignette category? I
know of several pieces where you might have four or five different
perspectives on the same moment, or several snapshots from someone's
life. (I'm thinking of Ellisande's "Gathering the Pieces", which had
seven moments in Denethor's life, from Finduilas's POV. More than one
scene, but each of them was definitely a vignette in its own right. In
structure these pieces are a lot like a drabble series.

Marta
--
"Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our greatest fear is
that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness
that most frightens us. [...] As we let our own light shine, we
unconsciously give other people permission to do the same."

(Nelson Mandela)

Msg# 3680

Re: Short Stories and Vignettes? Posted by Ainaechoiriel April 04, 2005 - 14:10:00 Topic ID# 3668
They would have to be a series and not a five-part story. And remember that
Vignette is only a subcategory. Otherwise we don't categorize by length so
it's really not all that big of a deal. But anyway, like a dbrabble series
is a group of individual stories, a vignette series would have to be the
same. Can the scenes stand alone but be related to each other? Or are they
five parts of one story?
--Ainaechoiriel

MEFA Admin and Founder

"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.

http://gabrielle.sytes.net/mefa The Middle-Earth Fanfiction Awards

Blog: http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marta Layton [mailto:melayton@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:50 AM
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] Short Stories and Vignettes?
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2005 9:47 AM, Ainaechoiriel <mefaadmin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > A vignette is just one scene. No more. As such, it generally is
> > short, but it's a particular format of short story.
> >
> > A short story may have several scenes but still be only
> 25,00 wors or so.
> >
>
> Can a series of vignettes be nominated in the vignette
> category? I know of several pieces where you might have four
> or five different perspectives on the same moment, or several
> snapshots from someone's life. (I'm thinking of Ellisande's
> "Gathering the Pieces", which had seven moments in Denethor's
> life, from Finduilas's POV. More than one scene, but each of
> them was definitely a vignette in its own right. In structure
> these pieces are a lot like a drabble series.
>
> Marta
> --
> "Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our
> greatest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is
> our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. [...] As
> we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other
> people permission to do the same."
>
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Msg# 3688

Re: Short Stories and Vignettes? Posted by Marta Layton April 04, 2005 - 15:48:31 Topic ID# 3668
On Apr 4, 2005 3:08 PM, Ainaechoiriel <mefaadmin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> They would have to be a series and not a five-part story. And remember
> that
> Vignette is only a subcategory. Otherwise we don't categorize by length so
> it's really not all that big of a deal. But anyway, like a dbrabble series
> is a group of individual stories, a vignette series would have to be the
> same. Can the scenes stand alone but be related to each other? Or are
> they
> five parts of one story?
> --Ainaechoiriel
>

In this case they can all stand alone. They really are like a drabble
series, only each part is longer than 100 words. Each vignette can
stand alone.

Marta
--
"Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our greatest fear is
that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness
that most frightens us. [...] As we let our own light shine, we
unconsciously give other people permission to do the same."

(Nelson Mandela)