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Msg# 4183

Question about the rules Posted by JunoMagic May 09, 2005 - 6:36:14 Topic ID# 4183
Hi all!

I am new to MEFA and although I tried to find out in the FAQ & rules
section what this means, I did not find anything.

Can anyone tell me what "c. No public URL (at any time during the
Awards Seasons)" means?

Yours
JunoMagic

Msg# 4186

Re: Question about the rules Posted by dwimmer\_laik May 09, 2005 - 9:26:37 Topic ID# 4183
--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "JunoMagic" <Juno@m...> wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I am new to MEFA and although I tried to find out in the FAQ & rules
> section what this means, I did not find anything.
>
> Can anyone tell me what "c. No public URL (at any time during the
> Awards Seasons)" means?
>
> Yours
> JunoMagic

It means that if X nominated story Y, and the admins could never find
a public URL for story Y, then no votes given to story Y will be
accepted.

I think this rule exists because some stories get entered with a
public URL and permission is given during nomination season, and then
sometimes in the middle of reading season, after people have already
had a chance to read and vote on it, the author takes the story down.
It was deemed unfair to those who had already read it and voted on it
to remove the story from competition at that point unless the author
specifically requested it.

I'm sure Ainae will have a more complete or correct explanation.

Dwim

Msg# 4192

Re: Question about the rules Posted by Marta Layton May 09, 2005 - 15:26:46 Topic ID# 4183
Hi Juno,

> I am new to MEFA and although I tried to find out in the FAQ & rules
> section what this means, I did not find anything.
>
> Can anyone tell me what "c. No public URL (at any time during the
> Awards Seasons)" means?
>

It means that your story has to accessible without logging in to a
certain site. So if you only have it on the members-only side of HASA,
it's not eligible. It would have to be posted to one of the sites that
don't require you to log in to view the story (FF.net, Stories of Arda,
Open Scrolls Archive, West of the Moon, etc.)

HTH,
Marta
*****
On the other hand, you have different fingers.


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Msg# 4213

Re: Question about the rules Posted by Ainaechoiriel May 10, 2005 - 16:16:36 Topic ID# 4183
It means simply that if a nominated story's Url requires a login, it is not
eligible. Only sites that do not require logins are acceptable for
nominations. With the exception of Tolkien Online, which is ineligible no
matter what.

For example, if you have a story in HASA, but it has not passed the Review
process, it requires a login on HASA to read it. That's not eligible. If
it was accepted through the Review process , it is in the public side of the
archive and anyone can read it. That is eligible.

--Ainaechoiriel
MEFA Admin and Founder

"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.

http://gabrielle.sytes.net/mefa The Middle-Earth Fanfiction Awards

Blog: http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com



> -----Original Message-----
> From: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dwimmer_laik
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 9:26 AM
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MEFAwards] Re: Question about the rules
>
> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "JunoMagic" <Juno@m...> wrote:
> > Hi all!
> >
> > I am new to MEFA and although I tried to find out in the
> FAQ & rules
> > section what this means, I did not find anything.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what "c. No public URL (at any time during the
> > Awards Seasons)" means?
> >
> > Yours
> > JunoMagic
>
> It means that if X nominated story Y, and the admins could
> never find a public URL for story Y, then no votes given to
> story Y will be accepted.
>
> I think this rule exists because some stories get entered
> with a public URL and permission is given during nomination
> season, and then sometimes in the middle of reading season,
> after people have already had a chance to read and vote on
> it, the author takes the story down.
> It was deemed unfair to those who had already read it and
> voted on it to remove the story from competition at that
> point unless the author specifically requested it.
>
> I'm sure Ainae will have a more complete or correct explanation.
>
> Dwim
>
>
>
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Msg# 4218

Re: Question about the rules Posted by Marta Layton May 10, 2005 - 16:49:39 Topic ID# 4183
On 10 May 2005, at 17:13, Ainaechoiriel wrote:

> It means simply that if a nominated story's Url requires a login, it
> is not
> eligible.  Only sites that do not require logins are acceptable for
> nominations.  With the exception of Tolkien Online, which is
> ineligible no
> matter what.
>
> For example, if you have a story in HASA, but it has not passed the
> Review
> process, it requires a login on HASA to read it.  That's not
> eligible.  If
> it was accepted through the Review process , it is in the public side
> of the
> archive and anyone can read it.  That is eligible.
>

Just to be clear about HASA --

If a story is entered in a challenge, it may also be available without
logging in. This is true if:

1. The challenge has gone "public", i.e., it has passed its deadline
and at least five stories were entered into it.
2. The author set the story's status to General (not Beta).
3. The author selected "display to public" (not "members-only") when
they entered it into the challenge.

If you're a HASA member and have any questions about this contact me
privately (melayton at gmail dot com) -- I help out the challenge
managers there, and I'll be glad to answer any questions.

Anyway, these stories are publicly accessible (without logging in),
even if they've never passed through review.

Marta
*****
On the other hand, you have different fingers.


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