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Msg# 4380

Re: question about  h/c placed in subcategory field Posted by MarigoldCotton@aol.com May 22, 2005 - 17:18:21 Topic ID# 4380
Hi Rhapsody,

It means "hurt/comfort" - basically the writer hurts the character in order to give him comfort : )

Hugs,

L

>Hi all,
>
>while I am trying to assign subcategories for Drama, I came across the
>abbreviation h/c.
>
>I have no clue what this is, can anyone shed a light on this?
>Marigold? Llinos? I think I have seen it before with Hobbit story
>nominations.
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Msg# 4381

Re: question about h/c placed in subcategory field Posted by rhapsody\_the\_bard May 22, 2005 - 17:20:08 Topic ID# 4380
--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, MarigoldCotton@a... wrote:
> Hi Rhapsody,
>
> It means "hurt/comfort" - basically the writer hurts the character
> in order to give him comfort : )

Thanks!!!!

:c)

Rhapsody

Msg# 4385

Re: question about  h/c placed in subcategory field Posted by MarigoldCotton@aol.com May 22, 2005 - 17:40:42 Topic ID# 4380
It's also a way to elevate and showcase your character's strength of will and bravery by giving him something else he must overcome, like an illness or injury, on top of the adversity he already faces. And for those characters that love or care about the one stricken there is drama, angst and caregiving and they must be stronger themselves to cope with healing their sick one.

It's a way of making your characters even more heroic. There are quite a few stories that are specifically h/c in hobbit fanfiction, and even more in which some form of h/c occurs though it is not the main storyline. There are even groups for h/c fics for specific characters, like FrodoHealers and PippinHealers on YahooGroups, and a Merrycentric one the name of which I can't remember at the moment - I think that it's very_merry on LJ.

Mari : )
>
>On 22 May 2005, at 18:15, rhapsody_the_bard wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>  while I am trying to assign subcategories for Drama, I came across the
>>  abbreviation h/c.
>>
>>  I have no clue what this is, can anyone shed a light on this?
>>  Marigold? Llinos? I think I have seen it before with Hobbit story
>>  nominations.
>>
>>  Rhapsody
>>
>>
>
>It stands for hurt/comfort. It's where you give your star character a
>hard time, so someone else can comfort them.
>
>According to http://www.subreality.com/glossary/terms.htm:
>
>  hurt/comfort -- a style of story in which one character is harmed
>(physically or emotionally) and another must save them, make them feel
>better, or both. Though not often seen in comic fandom, this one's been
>around since the original Star Trek 'zines and is often used to
>encourage a hopeless romance or set the stage for slash. In Sentinel
>fandom, stories of this type are jokingly called "owwies."
>
>Marta
>*****
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There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for awhile. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.

Sam, in Mordor, RoTK

Msg# 4386

Re: [MEFAwards] question about  h/c placed in subcategory field Posted by Marta Layton May 22, 2005 - 17:53:44 Topic ID# 4380
On 22 May 2005, at 18:40, MarigoldCotton@aol.com wrote:

> It's also a way to elevate and showcase your character's strength of
> will and bravery by giving him something else he must overcome, like
> an illness or injury, on top of the adversity he already faces. And
> for those characters that love or care about the one stricken there is
> drama, angst and caregiving and they must be stronger themselves to
> cope with healing their sick one.
>
> It's a way of making your characters even more heroic. There are
> quite a few stories that are specifically h/c in hobbit fanfiction,
> and even more in which some form of h/c occurs though it is not the
> main storyline. There are even groups for h/c fics for specific
> characters, like FrodoHealers and PippinHealers on YahooGroups, and a
> Merrycentric one the name of which I can't remember at the moment - I
> think that it's very_merry on LJ.
>
> Mari : )

Hi Mari,

I hope I didn't come across anti-h/c. I don't particularly care for it
personally, but I think that's because I've read too many *bad* h/c
(usually the situations were implausible, or the characterization
seemed OOC to me.) I know some people do like it, and that it can be
done well. If I was rude I didn't mean to be. I don't think you're
saying I was, but I want to make sure.

Yes, it can give us a nice view of our characters' character. How you
deal with frustrations when you're *already* feeling rotten is a good
way to see what a person's character really is.

Marta
*****
On the other hand, you have different fingers.


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Msg# 4387

RE: [MEFAwards] question about  h/c placed in subcategory field Posted by Ariel May 22, 2005 - 18:06:04 Topic ID# 4380
Marta might mention that she pulled her def off an online fanfic
dictionary and did not write it herself (unless she wrote the def for
them – which is possible). I've used the site myself to explain certain
old terms to newbie fanficcers and had read that def. before.



Ariel

www.bagendwest.net



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From: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Marta Layton
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 6:54 PM
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] question about h/c placed in subcategory field




On 22 May 2005, at 18:40, MarigoldCotton@aol.com wrote:

> It's also a way to elevate and showcase your character's strength of
> will and bravery by giving him something else he must overcome, like
> an illness or injury, on top of the adversity he already faces. And
> for those characters that love or care about the one stricken there is

> drama, angst and caregiving and they must be stronger themselves to
> cope with healing their sick one.
>
> It's a way of making your characters even more heroic. There are
> quite a few stories that are specifically h/c in hobbit fanfiction,
> and even more in which some form of h/c occurs though it is not the
> main storyline. There are even groups for h/c fics for specific
> characters, like FrodoHealers and PippinHealers on YahooGroups, and a
> Merrycentric one the name of which I can't remember at the moment - I
> think that it's very_merry on LJ.
>
> Mari : )

Hi Mari,

I hope I didn't come across anti-h/c. I don't particularly care for it
personally, but I think that's because I've read too many *bad* h/c
(usually the situations were implausible, or the characterization
seemed OOC to me.) I know some people do like it, and that it can be
done well. If I was rude I didn't mean to be. I don't think you're
saying I was, but I want to make sure.

Yes, it can give us a nice view of our characters' character. How you
deal with frustrations when you're *already* feeling rotten is a good
way to see what a person's character really is.

Marta
*****
On the other hand, you have different fingers.


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Msg# 4389

Re: [MEFAwards] question about  h/c placed in subcategory field Posted by Marta Layton May 22, 2005 - 18:14:13 Topic ID# 4380
On 22 May 2005, at 19:05, Ariel wrote:

> Marta might mention that she pulled her def off an online fanfic
> dictionary and did not write it herself (unless she wrote the def for
> them ý which is possible).ý I've used the site myself to explain
> certain
> old terms to newbie fanficcers and had read that def. before.
>

Yep, I pulled it off an online directory. I thought I included the URL,
but perhaps I forgot to. If so, here it is:

http://www.subreality.com/glossary/terms.htm

And no, I'm not the author of that definition -- just the grateful user
of it ;-)

Marta
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Msg# 4391

Re: question about  h/c placed in subcategory field Posted by MarigoldCotton@aol.com May 22, 2005 - 18:20:02 Topic ID# 4380
Hi Marta,

No, I certainly didn't think that you were rude at all. I thought that more could be said on the subject as Rhapsody and perhaps some others didn't know what h/c was.

I thought that this part of your explanation "is often used to encourage a hopeless romance or set the stage for slash" might lead those who weren't familiar with the genre to think that these were the primary reasons behind h/c.

That may be true in other fandoms, but in the h/c fics that I have read in LoTR I have very seldom seen the h/c result in slash or romance, but then I really only read hobbity fics. The h/c in the hobbity fics that I am familiar with deals primarily with family and fraternal love between the hobbits, and/or other members of the Fellowship.

Hugs,

Mari

>
>On 22 May 2005, at 18:40, MarigoldCotton@aol.com wrote:
>
>> It's also a way to elevate and showcase your character's strength of
>> will and bravery by giving him something else he must overcome, like
>> an illness or injury, on top of the adversity he already faces. And
>> for those characters that love or care about the one stricken there is
>> drama, angst and caregiving and they must be stronger themselves to
>> cope with healing their sick one.
>>
>>  It's a way of making your characters even more heroic. There are
>> quite a few stories that are specifically h/c in hobbit fanfiction,
>> and even more in which some form of h/c occurs though it is not the
>> main storyline. There are even groups for h/c fics for specific
>> characters, like FrodoHealers and PippinHealers on YahooGroups, and a
>> Merrycentric one the name of which I can't remember at the moment - I
>> think that it's very_merry on LJ.
>>
>>  Mari : )
>
>Hi Mari,
>
>I hope I didn't come across anti-h/c. I don't particularly care for it
>personally, but I think that's because I've read too many *bad* h/c
>(usually the situations were implausible, or the characterization
>seemed OOC to me.) I know some people do like it, and that it can be
>done well. If I was rude I didn't mean to be. I don't think you're
>saying I was, but I want to make sure.
>
>Yes, it can give us a nice view of our characters' character. How you
>deal with frustrations when you're *already* feeling rotten is a good
>way to see what a person's character really is.
>
>Marta
>*****
>On the other hand, you have different fingers.
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There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for awhile. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.

Sam, in Mordor, RoTK

Msg# 4392

Re: question about  h/c placed in subcategory field Posted by MarigoldCotton@aol.com May 22, 2005 - 18:26:58 Topic ID# 4380
LOL! The character can have anything from a simple cold to major near mortal battle wounds, and the comforter can do as little as make them a cup of tea and hold their hand, or actually tand and heal them, like Aragorn with his skills as a healer : )

Mari
>
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>Wow, I think I wrote a h/c story about Legolas, not to mention Thraunduil and an OC as well, and didn't know it.  So the requirements are, the main character(s) face an extraordinary adversity and the comforting character must ...what? Be stronger than they've ever been, or .....  ?  Regards - Chathol-linn
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>On 22 May 2005, at 18:40, MarigoldCotton@aol.com wrote:
>
>> It's also a way to elevate and showcase your character's strength of
>> will and bravery by giving him something else he must overcome, like
>> an illness or injury, on top of the adversity he already faces. And
>> for those characters that love or care about the one stricken there is
>> drama, angst and caregiving and they must be stronger themselves to
>> cope with healing their sick one.
>>
>>  It's a way of making your characters even more heroic. There are
>> quite a few stories that are specifically h/c in hobbit fanfiction,
>> and even more in which some form of h/c occurs though it is not the
>> main storyline. There are even groups for h/c fics for specific
>> characters, like FrodoHealers and PippinHealers on YahooGroups, and a
>> Merrycentric one the name of which I can't remember at the moment - I
>> think that it's very_merry on LJ.
>>
>>  Mari : )
>
>Hi Mari,
>
>I hope I didn't come across anti-h/c. I don't particularly care for it
>personally, but I think that's because I've read too many *bad* h/c
>(usually the situations were implausible, or the characterization
>seemed OOC to me.) I know some people do like it, and that it can be
>done well. If I was rude I didn't mean to be. I don't think you're
>saying I was, but I want to make sure.
>
>Yes, it can give us a nice view of our characters' character. How you
>deal with frustrations when you're *already* feeling rotten is a good
>way to see what a person's character really is.
>
>Marta
>*****
>On the other hand, you have different fingers.
>
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There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for awhile. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.

Sam, in Mordor, RoTK