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Msg# 471

Dark Leaf, NC-17 and stuff Posted by Sharon Henderson May 06, 2004 - 7:17:47 Topic ID# 471
--- Ainae wrote:

> But I did draw a line at NC-17. And that even means
> that I will not be nominating one of my favorite
> WIPs: Dark Leaf, by JastaElf (when, oh when, will we
> get an update, Jasta dear?)

:-) Ah, the question of the year....

Soon. I have a chapter (actually two...) that has
been to the beta, and have been trying desperately to
work past Real Life and depression and various other
things to finish making the excellent changes she
proposed, which will make the chapter VERY good rather
than OK... :-) But it's been a rough winter/spring
so far. I have Friday off, so we'll see... fingers
crossed, DL fans... :-)

> I don't think every Orc fic out there would
> by nature be NC-17. Not even every sex scene is
> NC-17. Or torture scene, etc. I may not read
> romance, but I have admitted to myself that I like a
> good torture story. Dark Leaf is one of those. A
> very good one. But it is extremely graphic
> and thus, I'd call it NC-17.

We-eeelll... here we have the heart of the problem.
:-) When I first started that story, I myself rated
it NC-17--and got all SORTS of comments from people
that I was rating it far higher than it needed to be.
The violence and non-con sexual content was
appropriate to the storyline, but most folks felt I
handled it pretty well in terms of not beating people
about the head and shoulders with it. Most of the
comments were along the lines of "There are PG-13
stories out there with more violence and graphic sex
than DL, and no one complains about those!"

When Xing banned NC-17 stories, I changed DL's rating
to the lowest I would feel comfortable going: R. That
is the rating it now holds in every archive at which
it can now be found, and I was VERY careful to put
strong warnings at the heads of all chapters with
Difficult Concepts in them. As the story now stands,
there is only one more chapter in which there will be
true "difficult sexual concepts" that I would rate a
strong R+, and that is the chapter after the soon to
be new one, where the Human Aldor is made to face what
he did to Legolas as a child -- and then is punished
for same. After that, the rest of the tale is about
love and recovery and compassion, which as far as I
know is not usually rated R. :-)

So it's something of a crap shoot. Not sure how you
would want to handle this here; if it ever WAS rated
NC-17 (which it was), and you don't wish to include it
for that reason, no problem.

Cheers,
Jasta




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