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Msg# 5060

Author Reviews Posted by Leaward August 16, 2005 - 10:47:27 Topic ID# 5060
I notice that some people have entered author reviews that appear
under a single story, while others have entered them for each of the
author's stories. What should be happening? And what will they be
used for? is there an 'author's' award?

Lea

Msg# 5061

Re: Author Reviews Posted by Ainaechoiriel August 16, 2005 - 11:59:03 Topic ID# 5060
Yes, there are Author Awards but not for each story. Say you wrote three
short stories all in the Elf General category. You'd only be elligible once
for the Elf General Author Award.

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> I notice that some people have entered author reviews that
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Msg# 5062

Re: Author Reviews Posted by Leaward August 16, 2005 - 12:43:50 Topic ID# 5060
So is it per main category, or for each sub category ?

So if an author has a story in "BT The Hobbit" and another in "BT The
Hobbit/Vignette ... you could leave two author reviews? One in the
main category and one in the subcategory? Or would you only need one
in BT The Hobbit?

Just trying to figure out how many I need to write ...

Lea

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Ainaechoiriel" <mefaadmin@e...> wrote:
> Yes, there are Author Awards but not for each story. Say you wrote
three
> short stories all in the Elf General category. You'd only be
elligible once
> for the Elf General Author Award.
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----

> >
> > I notice that some people have entered author reviews that
> > appear under a single story, while others have entered them
> > for each of the author's stories. What should be happening?
> > And what will they be used for? is there an 'author's' award?
> >
> > Lea
> >

Msg# 5063

Re: Author Reviews Posted by C Dodd August 16, 2005 - 14:04:14 Topic ID# 5060
Is this why some authors have duplicate entries in the author reviews?

On 8/16/05, Leaward <leaward_l@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> So is it per main category, or for each sub category ?
>
> So if an author has a story in "BT The Hobbit" and another in "BT The
> Hobbit/Vignette ... you could leave two author reviews? One in the
> main category and one in the subcategory? Or would you only need one
> in BT The Hobbit?
>
> Just trying to figure out how many I need to write ...
>
> Lea
>
> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Ainaechoiriel" <mefaadmin@e...> wrote:
> > Yes, there are Author Awards but not for each story. Say you wrote
> three
> > short stories all in the Elf General category. You'd only be
> elligible once
> > for the Elf General Author Award.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
>
> > >
> > > I notice that some people have entered author reviews that
> > > appear under a single story, while others have entered them
> > > for each of the author's stories. What should be happening?
> > > And what will they be used for? is there an 'author's' award?
> > >
> > > Lea
> > >
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Msg# 5065

Re: Author Reviews Posted by sulriel August 16, 2005 - 14:35:06 Topic ID# 5060
--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, C Dodd <rabidsamfan@v...> wrote:
> Is this why some authors have duplicate entries in the author
reviews?

I think that the author awards are only for the main cates, not the
subs.

and that you can paste the same author review in different cates as
long as it's appropriate. (IOW, if you write specifically about how
well the author writes hobbits, you wouldn't want to paste it in that
author's men's entry without modifying it)

Msg# 5066

Re: Author Reviews Posted by Ainaechoiriel August 16, 2005 - 16:24:06 Topic ID# 5060
Yes for the most part. You can copy author reviews. We made that
concession during Post Mortem last year. As for sub cats there are some, but
not as many. They are for formats only. So there is Author General, Author
Poetry, author Drabble, etc. So if you wrote an Elf Drabble, an Elf Poem
and 3 Elf Short Stories, you'd be in the running for three awards:

Elf Author (for the short stories)
Elf Author Drabble (I think you can figure that one out)
Elf Author Poetry (and that one, too.)

--Ainaechoiriel
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> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, C Dodd <rabidsamfan@v...> wrote:
> > Is this why some authors have duplicate entries in the author
> reviews?
>
> I think that the author awards are only for the main cates, not the
> subs.
>
> and that you can paste the same author review in different cates as
> long as it's appropriate. (IOW, if you write specifically about how
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Msg# 5067

Re: Author Reviews Posted by ghettoelleth@aol.com August 16, 2005 - 16:52:51 Topic ID# 5060
In a message dated 8/16/2005 2:24:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
mefaadmin@earthlink.net writes:

Yes for the most part. You can copy author reviews. We made that
concession during Post Mortem last year. As for sub cats there are some, but
not as many. They are for formats only. So there is Author General, Author
Poetry, author Drabble, etc. So if you wrote an Elf Drabble, an Elf Poem
and 3 Elf Short Stories, you'd be in the running for three awards:



Instead of writing a lot of small words, can we just write one big one, like
we used to do when we were little with the cookie dough or pancake batter
after the novelty wore off? I'm so t-i-r-e-d girls, I don't know how you do
it. I'm running out of adjectives quicker than when I'm writing, as well.

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Msg# 5068

Re: Author Reviews Posted by dwimmer\_laik August 16, 2005 - 17:26:12 Topic ID# 5060
--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Ainaechoiriel" <mefaadmin@e...> wrote:
> Yes, there are Author Awards but not for each story. Say you wrote
three
> short stories all in the Elf General category. You'd only be
elligible once
> for the Elf General Author Award.

So if I wrote an author review and entered it under each story
(modifying it a little each time), how would that be scored? I'd been
thinking if I ever managed to do author reviews, I'd pick write a
giant one according to category, and paste it into a randomly selected
fic by the appropriate author in the appropriate category.

But it seems as if I could paste that author review in multiple times
within a category and up the character count significantly, or use a
minimally different one each time within a category and end up with
the same result.

Is there a filter for this or will volunteers have to read all these
author reviews and recognize which author reviews by a single reviewer
are the same within a category, which ones by a single reviewer are
problematically similar within categories, and which ones are ok
because they cross categories?

I hope I'm making sense, here.

Dwim

Msg# 5071

Re: Author Reviews Posted by Ainaechoiriel August 16, 2005 - 18:08:22 Topic ID# 5060
That is apparently an unexpected problem with the MEFA2005 site. I'll see
if Anthony can fix it. May take some work. Could I have you guys hold off
on Author Reviews (write them somewhere else for the meantime) while we try
to hammer this out? That way perhaps we can merge the ones that are out
there where we need merging, set them as Draft and then you can rework them
to tentative or final.

--Ainaechoiriel
MEFA Admin and Founder

"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.

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Blog: http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com



> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 5:26 PM
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MEFAwards] Re: Author Reviews
>
> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Ainaechoiriel"
> <mefaadmin@e...> wrote:
> > Yes, there are Author Awards but not for each story. Say you wrote
> three
> > short stories all in the Elf General category. You'd only be
> elligible once
> > for the Elf General Author Award.
>
> So if I wrote an author review and entered it under each
> story (modifying it a little each time), how would that be
> scored? I'd been thinking if I ever managed to do author
> reviews, I'd pick write a giant one according to category,
> and paste it into a randomly selected fic by the appropriate
> author in the appropriate category.
>
> But it seems as if I could paste that author review in
> multiple times within a category and up the character count
> significantly, or use a minimally different one each time
> within a category and end up with the same result.
>
> Is there a filter for this or will volunteers have to read
> all these author reviews and recognize which author reviews
> by a single reviewer are the same within a category, which
> ones by a single reviewer are problematically similar within
> categories, and which ones are ok because they cross categories?
>
> I hope I'm making sense, here.
>
> Dwim
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Msg# 7368

Author Reviews Posted by aure\_enteluva August 16, 2006 - 10:51:48 Topic ID# 5060
Hey guys,

You all have been great about posting story reviews, and some authors
will be getting some wonderfully rich feedback. Good job! But so far I
have not seen any final author reviews. If you have decided to focus
on story reviews or just are saving author reviews for last or haven't
made them final yet, that's absolutely fine. The MEFAs are glad to
have any reviews you choose to submit. However, I want to make sure
everyone understands just how to make author reviews.

When you review a story you are making comments about that particular
piece. Author reviews are more general. I tend to think of my MEFA
reviews like recommending something to a friend. If someone approaches
me and asks me if I know of any good stories, for example, with an
outstanding interpretation of Thranduil, I would maybe come up with
2-3 titles and explain just why Thranduil is so spectacular in those
pieces. And I'd probably say whatever else I really liked about the
story. That would be something like what I do in a story review.

An author review, like I said, is more general. If that same friend
asked me for recommendations for authors who write the Mirkwood elves
I would not be commenting on what a particular author did right in a
particular story. I might say that author A does a good job of
capturing the sense of sustained trauma you get when Dol Guldur is at
your back door, while author B has some fascinating ideas about the
political relations between Mirkwood, Erebor, and Dale/Laketown, while
author C has a real knack for writing children and her young Legolas
was always a fun read without being so sugar-sweet it seemed like too
much. In other words, the things I liked about the author's "world",
or the common strengths in all the stories I'd read by that author.
Author reviews should be something along those same lines.

So, here's the GROUND RULES for author reviews:

1. When an author has a story nominated they are also entered as an
author in the author subcategories for whatever main category their
story ends up in. There are three author subcategories for each main
category. All the authors in the fixed-length ficlet categories are
entered in the "Fixed-Length Ficlet Authors" subcat; poetry authors
are entered in "Poetry Authors", and everyone else in "General
Authors". If you have both a poem and a drabble you get entered in both.

2. Voting is done along the same lines as story votes. You enter a
review of the author, and the website assigns it a point value based
on length. The author with the most points wins.

3. There is no maximum size on author categories like there are for
story categories. If there are seventeen authors who wrote full-length
stories in "The Great Years", they will all go in "The Great Years:
General Authors".

4. An author is entered in a sub-category for each main category where
her stories are placed. For someone with lots of stories in the awards
this could be quite a few. In this case you can either write a unique
review for every subcategory (or as many as you want to vote in) that
the author is entered in, or you can write one general review and copy
it into a review for each subcategory (or as many as want to vote in)
that the author is entered in. In an ideal world we'd love for you to
write a unique review for each subcategory - but in the interests of
time if it helps you can copy your author review from one author
review to another FOR THE SAME AUTHOR.

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES can you copy a review or any significant part
of a review from one author to another author. If you think that two
authors write the best Pippin you've ever read, you can't write
general praise and use it for both of them.

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES can you copy from one story review to another
story review, or from an author review to a story review (or vice
versa). Copying is allowed for author reviews only, and only then when
you're copying into a review of the same author in a different
subcategory.

5. You are reviewing the author, not a specific story, so you can make
use of any other stories by the author that are not nominated. You
don't have to go and read new pieces, but if you've read the author
before you can bring those other stories in if it helps.

6. There are two ways to review. You can review by clicking the link
to enter a new author review on the right side of the page where you
vote for stories. But if you find it easier, there's a special part of
the website devoted to author reviews. Log in to
http://www.mefawards.net/MEFA2006/ and click the "Browse Authors"
list. Then select a main category and click "Display selected
persons". This will list all of the authors with stories in that
subcategory. If they appear in more than one author subcat, they'll be
listed more than once - for example, in "Men" Acacea is listed twice,
once for her full-length stories and once for her fixed-length
ficlets. To enter a review for any of these authors click "Enter New
Author Review" off to the right of their name. This will enter an
author review in the subcategory that is listed in the "Author Review
SubCategory" column.

For more information, see the FAQ on author reviews at

http://mefawards.net/faq/viewtopic.php?p=124

and be sure to read the replies, where I give even some examples. I
explain best by example, but in the interest of space I've kept them
out of this post.

Oh, and one last thing: there haven't been any author reviews this
year, but there have been in previous years. If you're looking for
examples to guide you, you can look at last year's. To do this, go to
http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/ and click "Log in as guest".
(Note, your password won't work if you weren't registered in 2005 or
have changed your password since then.) Once you're in click the
seventh item down, "Read Author Reviews".

And I think that's enough information for one sitting. If you are at
all confused PLEASE ask. You may not be the only one, and I'm happy to
answer any questions. If you'd rather do it privately, you can also
email me at mefasupport(at)gmail(dot)com.

So... go ye forth and review. Either stories or authors, both are good.

Marta