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Msg# 5121

Reviews Final as of 8/17/2005 part 36 Posted by Ainaechoiriel August 17, 2005 - 23:33:57 Topic ID# 5121
Title: On
<http://www.henneth-annun.net/challenge/chapter.cfm?STID=317&NGID=2> the
Death of His Wife · Author: Alawa
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=10
3> · Races/Places: Gondor: Poetry · ID: 74
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Reviewer: Nancy
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5> Brooke · 2005-07-24 15:56:36 Score: 2
I thought this was very good, with language that was formal without being
stilted and just the right mixture of bitterness and resignation.

Title: Wait for me -
<http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/chapter.cfm?stid=4455> Eowyn · Author:
elanor_of_aquitania
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=69
> · Races/Places: Gondor: Poetry · ID: 127
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Reviewer: Nancy
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5> Brooke · 2005-07-24 16:23:49 Score: 4
I thought this was a wonderful story. It hit all the marks - scene setting,
characterizations, realistic situations - with a good bit more. There were
some lovely details - the idea that Finduilas would go to the Ocean for the
summer and her family as so many of us do; that Boromir would be so quick to
learn even if not in the area of languages; that Denethor was loving with
his wife and stern with his sons, and have to work late at home.

Title: Beauty
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=3477&cid=13129> in the
Light · Author: Gwynnyd
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=18
6> · Races/Places: Dwarves: Drabble · ID: 1300
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o&navbar_page=0&markpage=37&form_story_filter=1300>
Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-24 16:30:04 Score: 2
As I read this, I kept thinking of the blurb for the tale of Aldarion and
Erendis: a man can't serve two masters. Can a Dwarf serve two beauties? It
remains to be seen.

Title: Spirit
<http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/chapter_view.cfm?STID=2321&SPOrdinal=1
> of a Sword · Author: Erin's
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=36
6> Daughter · Races/Places: Dwarves · ID: 724
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o&navbar_page=0&markpage=37&form_story_filter=724>
Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-24 16:30:44 Score: 1
I like the father-child relationship of Dwarf to work; it seems very
fitting.

Title: In <http://www.wellinghall.net/fanfic/indark.html> Darkness ·
Author: Celandine
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3> Brandybuck · Races/Places: Dwarves · ID: 678
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o&navbar_page=0&markpage=37&form_story_filter=678>
Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-24 16:31:11 Score: 3
Balin seems remarkably lucid on his deathbed! But really, the loose
arrangement of his musings suits the setting, and I liked particularly the
last line:

"The halls of my fathers call to me. Perhaps I shall see there Dúrin
himself, and have to admit my failure. I tried. I tried…"

There's something poignant about that sense of failed striving.


Title: Black <http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/chapter.cfm?STID=2496>
Diamond · Author: thevina_finduilas
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=87
> · Races/Places: Dwarves · ID: 563
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Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-24 16:31:35 Score: 3
I like the edginess of Gimli and Legolas in this fic. They're still not
quite friendly, and a Dwarf exhausted from what should have been the last
battle any of them would ever see is hardly a good conversationalist. I can
imagine the search for and the discovery and rescue of Pippin might have
gone something like this.

Title: From
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=3484&cid=13205> the
Eastern Force · Author: Tanaqui
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=40
> · Races/Places: Dwarves: Drabble · ID: 539
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o&navbar_page=0&markpage=37&form_story_filter=539>
Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-24 16:32:02 Score: 2
A very sympathetic non-Dwarvish view from midst of the chaos of the Nirnaeth
Arnoediad. Azaghal's people are given their due in tribute from an ally who
recognizes their courage.

Title: Of Durin and
<http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/chapter.cfm?STID=3408> Kibil-nala ·
Author: Mantida
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4> · Races/Places: Dwarves · ID: 473
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Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-24 16:32:42 Score: 8
Mantida has really captured the tone and style of mythic lore for this
story. Nevermind that there is a canonical explanation for Cirdan's
beard—you'll be quite willing to overlook that for this story, I feel nearly
certain. In this tale, Durin becomes a kind of Dwarvish Adam, except his
wife, surprisingly in a sense, given the Dwarvish love of craft and the
apparent possessiveness of that people, doesn't arise from his own hands or
body. Instead, he meets a stranger, which is just a wonderful, generous myth
of peace across races there, at the beginning of Dwarvish time that also
takes into account the few facts we have about the Longbeards in a creative,
surprising fashion. There's no conquest, there's no sense of ownership
involved in this relationship, but a celebration of beauty that provokes
desire across differences, like electricity between two opposite poles.
Exquisitely written, it is more effective than many a fic that harps on and
on about how different X and Y are from each other—it just assumes this and
the story unfolds naturally. Give this story a try; it is well worth it.

Title: The
<http://www.henneth-annun.net/challenge/chapter_view.cfm?NGID=97&STID=2223&S
POrdinal=8> Hall of Standards · Author: Forodwaith
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=50
> · Races/Places: Dwarves · ID: 373
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o&navbar_page=0&markpage=37&form_story_filter=373>
Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-24 16:33:14 Score: 5
Although short, one gets a sense of the history and the inherited ethos of
the Dwarves as Balin sees the Hall of Standards for the first time. This is
like looking into King Tut's tomb, I imagine, and recognizing your own
heritage there. I particularly loved this exchange:

"When the Dwarves raise a standard in our halls, we use quickset to see that
it stays put. It may be left behind to be won back later, it may be cut down
by our enemies, but it will never be moved."

"What we have, we hold..."

Quintessentially Dwarvish rootedness in these lines.


Title: Drums
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=1887&cid=9417> in the Deep
· Author: Forodwaith
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=50
> · Races/Places: Dwarves: Drabble · ID: 355
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o&navbar_page=0&markpage=37&form_story_filter=355>
Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-24 16:33:46 Score: 1
A little glimpse into the stoic fellowship of Dwarves in their final
foxhole. Nicely done.

Title: Legacy
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=1865&cid=9468> · Author:
Elana
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=51
> · Races/Places: Dwarves · ID: 300
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Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-24 16:34:19 Score: 5
Vengeance and willfulness run deep in the Dwarves when they're disturbed,
and it's interesting to see this from a woman's point of view. Dís's
dislocation is far more severe it seems than those of her male kindred.
There's always that substitution, though: she will not be among those who
retake the mountain, but she will give her sons to that task—it's as if
she's made them only for that. There's something beautiful and yet terrible
in her vow that "I will teach you to hunger and thirst for retribution."

Title: Offerings
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=3044&cid=11813> · Author:
Raksha
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=17
8> the Demon · Races/Places: Gondor: Boromir and Faramir · ID: 322
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o&navbar_page=0&markpage=37&form_story_filter=322>
Reviewer: Nancy
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=10
5> Brooke · 2005-07-24 16:38:44 Score: 2
The author has drawn a lovely contrast here in the inner life of Denethor
and the exterior life of Faramir. Interesting that Denethor could have also
been a neglected son, and that Faramir would choose light over shadow.

Title: Gathering of
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterlistview.asp?SID=3083> the Grey Company
· Author: Leaward
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=22
2> · Books/Time: Gap-Filler: Grey Company · ID: 171
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Reviewer: sulriel
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=7>
· 2005-07-24 17:11:08 Score: 6
This is my favorite gap-filler, what a poignant view of the many
difficulties the peoples and the lands were facing on the fringes of JRR
Tolkien's writings. Leaward has woven a cast of original characters into
Tolkien's world in a believable and realistic way, delightfully in character
for the time and the world. She highlights the current issues facing the
Rangers in their world in leaving their loved ones nearly defenseless in
order to go south to fight beside their King Elessar. I especially like the
way she approaches the heartbreak of leaving their families and loved ones.
- not just leaving them to ride into danger, but leaving them unprotected
and in known danger themselves. -leaving their comrades thinly spread to try
to protect too many against too much.

Title: Opening <http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/chapter.cfm?STID=2650>
Doors · Author: Adina
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=19
8> ATL · Races/Places: Cross-Cultural · ID: 359
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o&navbar_page=0&markpage=37&form_story_filter=359>
Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-25 00:57:59 Score: 6
There seems to be a certain interest in making Narvi female. It makes for a
fascinating dynamic as dwarven and elven frustrations, customs, and errors
make themselves known. The author also pulls in an added romantic tension
when Galadriel appears—wedded to Celeborn, beloved of Celebrimbor, and the
opener of doors figurative and otherwise for Narvi who also desires her,
Galadriel is a beautiful enigma. It's an interesting quasi-triangle. This
fic draws the reader into a complicated tangle of desire and limitation, and
finds dwarven immortality in the students Narvi will teach—most especially
the elvish students. Well worth the read!

Title: Keeping the
<http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/chapter.cfm?STID=3038> Watch · Author:
ErinRua
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=26
7> · Races/Places: Cross-Cultural: Pre-War of the Ring · ID: 333
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Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-25 00:59:14 Score: 4
I love the hobbits in this story for the way their more usual, generous
habits of thought work against the suspicion demanded by their job as
bounders. It's a brief encounter—a missed encounter, really, or perhaps a
close encounter—with a Ranger on his watch, and something about the fact
that the Bounders and the Rangers walk parallel courses in their duties
without *quite* managing a direct relationship is very endearing.

Title: Handmaiden of
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterlistview.asp?SID=3520> Lorien · Author:
Marnie
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=24
5> · Races/Places: Cross-Cultural · ID: 316
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o&navbar_page=0&markpage=37&form_story_filter=316>
Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-25 00:59:38 Score: 4
An interesting take indeed on this mythic couple. The handmaiden twist shows
up some real differences between both Thingol and Melian, but also in the
nature of power. It isn't simply its raw measure that defines it as
'commanding'; it is the attitude of the one who wields it, so that even a
powerful creature is shown to be weak as commander when its nature is to
serve. Read this story for those last few paragraphs; they make the entire
fic.

Title: Kindred
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=1865&cid=9411> Spirits ·
Author: Elana
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=51
> · Races/Places: Cross-Cultural: Drabble · ID: 299
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o&navbar_page=0&markpage=37&form_story_filter=299>
Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-25 01:00:13 Score: 1
An excellent insight into the symmetry of Frodo's and Celebrian's
experiences of evil.

Title: Dragons
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=3016&cid=11653> and
Shadows · Author: Branwyn
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=24
0> · Races/Places: Cross-Cultural: Drabble · ID: 285
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o&navbar_page=0&markpage=37&form_story_filter=285>
Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-25 01:00:46 Score: 2
I like this little interlude, where old myths, memories, and science come
together rather than colliding as they usually do.

Title: There
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=3581&cid=13575> and Back
Again · Author: Elena
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7> Tiriel · Races/Places: Cross-Cultural: Drabble · ID: 202
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Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-25 01:01:19 Score: 2
A nice contextualizing of the Book of Marzabul through Frodo's love of
memoirs. It gives both Frodo and Balin a little more depth.

Title: Of Elves and
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterlistview.asp?SID=3048> Dwarves and Late
Night Philosophy · Author: Thundera
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=86
> Tiger · Races/Places: Cross-Cultural: Humor · ID: 199
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o&navbar_page=0&markpage=37&form_story_filter=199>
Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-25 01:02:48 Score: 8
God bless you for reinvigorating the fine tradition of theodicy in
Middle-earth, Thundera! Either that, or may S/He curse you to live in
interesting times because this sort of thing tends to stir the desire to
intervene in the conversation of fictional characters and that way lies
madness and a new white coat. I appreciate your casting Aragorn in the
Socratic role—""I do not believe that the discussion has been worthless,"
Aragorn said slowly, "for it has revealed to us just how little we truly
know."" It's really the only honorable philosophical position, provided one
isn't out to torment one's opponents for the joy of it.

All in all, the jockeying on this chicken-and-egg question was entertaining
to watch, as conversational dominance passes back and forth, and for all the
debate in its substance is less important than the interpersonal dynamics
and games of control, it wasn't simple window-dressing either. So when does
round two happen? And what will be the next question? How many
non-re-embodied Elves can dance on the head of a dwarvish pin, perhaps? I
look forward to the argumentative cage match, whatever it might be.


Title: The Day <http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterlistview.asp?SID=2767>
After · Author: Thundera
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> Tiger · Races/Places: Cross-Cultural: Post-War of the Ring · ID: 197
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Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-25 01:03:24 Score: 7
Huzzah for a story that really tries to get at the elven sense of time and
examine it in as systematic a way as a story can likely sustain. Gimli
proves very insightful as he compares battle-time and the time of the day
after battle to normal elvish time-sense and Legolas' altered time-sense.
This in itself would be merely an interesting exercise, save that there are
consequences to that alteration: an elf's sense of time is suited to the
temporality of an immortal being, that cannot take in the shorter spans of
mortal measures forever without being driven mad; Legolas' having been
affected by his mortal friends to the point of beginning to be tied to their
time frame as much as is elvenly possible is not without risk. Humorous in
parts, but also touching, Gimli and Legolas fans will not want to miss this
fic.

Title: He
<http://www.tolkienfanfiction.com/Story_Read_Chapter.php?CHid=1133> Stands
Not Alone · Author: Azalais
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=18
7> · Races/Places: Cross-Cultural: Drabble · ID: 147
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Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-25 01:03:55 Score: 5
Despite the peril of the Fellowship's position at the time, this drabble
suggests a rather humble beginning to Legolas' and Gimli's friendship. The
almost unthinking reaction of Legolas, to go back for a companion without
thought of racial divisions so much as crossing his mind and Gimli's
unselfconscious thanks point to the fact that there never was a decision
involved in drawing closer to each other. It just happened, as my favorite
line indicates: "Something about the shape of the air behind me makes me
look round: no Dwarf."

Title: The Mark of a... <http://www.scribeoz.com/fanfic/story.php?no=1315>
Warrior? · Author: Ariel
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=16
2> · Races/Places: Cross-Cultural: Humor · ID: 133
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Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-25 01:04:46 Score: 2
The bathroom rituals of males are utterly incomprehensible, but I wouldn't
argue with the author's assertion: yes, this probably would happen at least
once!

Title: A Prince's <http://www.lotrfanfiction.com/viewstory.php?sid=1143>
Question · Author: Tathrin
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=22
6> · Races/Places: Cross-Cultural: Humor · ID: 113
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Reviewer: Dwimordene
<http://gabrielle.sytes.net/MEFA2005/index.php?page=authorDetails&form_id=8>
· 2005-07-25 01:05:23 Score: 6
I think I've hurt myself laughing over this. It's an interesting slash-fanon
twist on the perennial awkward child's question—a sort of classic gag. And
truly, the most amusing part of the whole thing is, of course, the antics of
Legolas and Gimli as they manage not to answer Eldarion. Aragorn's and
Arwen's setting their son up to provide free entertainment was... evil. But
amusingly so. Éowyn would get the job of being the Aunt Who Knows—why not,
after all the time she must have spent collecting information on Wormtongue?
The ending includes the time-honored fallacy of equivocation and employs it
nicely.

Title: Prelude <http://www.fanfiction.net/s/513858/1/> · Author: Mercat
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Reviewer: Dwimordene
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· 2005-07-25 01:05:51 Score: 5
I'm sorry, Mercat, I'm going to steal an old review of mine almost verbatim,
as I think my opinion has not changed since that time. This story is very
well done. We don't see much (ok, any) interaction between Frodo and Legolas
in the books, and I love the way the elf proposes a very elvish solution to
a hobbit's problems. Good continuity with the reference to the
"transparency" that Gandalf noted, and I love the way you wrote Merry and
Pippin. It's good to see Frodo jest with them even though he maintains a
certain distance. Sam was beautiful, for all his few words. Nicely put
together.



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