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For category awards, for Angst I suggest The Grey Havens (because
everybody needs a Kleenex for that part of LOTR) and for Romance I
would drop Tuor and Idril for Faramir and Eowyn. (Okay, so I've
made awards for those categories and am JUST a LITTLE biased...but
they were SUCH lovely images I found....)

Ingwe is proving VERY difficult to create an award for, because he's
SO minor in the books. I see the rationale in having a Vanyar,
Noldor and Teleri/Sindar award, but I'm not sure what one would
nominate for that award.

For the Numenoreans, I'd like to suggest changing Tar-Palantir to Ar-
Pharazon, to accommodate any writers who choose to write from the
non-Faithful point of view.

And instead of Nimrodel and Amroth for the Angst/Drama category,
could I suggest The Unnumbered Tears Award for Sil-based angst?

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, granamyr@y... wrote:

> For category awards, for Angst I suggest The Grey Havens (because
> everybody needs a Kleenex for that part of LOTR) and for Romance I
> would drop Tuor and Idril for Faramir and Eowyn. (Okay, so I've
> made awards for those categories and am JUST a LITTLE biased...but
> they were SUCH lovely images I found....)

Sorry, but if you look there's a similarity between each of the
three. For Drama (not angst, but including angst) we picked the
dramatic characters, not places. Turin Turmbar is probably the
prince of angst. Frodo certainly exudes a lot of that. And I had at
first Tar-Miriel as hers was quite a sad story, but as she was
elsewhere named again, I changed it with Dwim's help to another sad
story, that of Nimrodel and Amroth. Characters. Not places.

And for Romance, there are three "famous" or "well-known" romances
between Elves and Men: Luthien and Beren first, then Tuor and Idril,
then Arwen and Aragorn. Faramir and Eowyn might be a lovely couple
but they are mortal and mortal. They don't fit the pattern.

> Ingwe is proving VERY difficult to create an award for, because

he's

> SO minor in the books. I see the rationale in having a Vanyar,
> Noldor and Teleri/Sindar award, but I'm not sure what one would
> nominate for that award.

You don't nominate for awards. You nominate for categories. You
don't have to write about Ingwe to win The Ingwe of Valinor Award.
You have to write the Elf story that gets the most points. I
picked, with Shadow975's help, three kingdoms of Elves and their
kings: Ingwe in Valinor as the high king of the Vanya, Elu Thingol
unchallenged ruler of the Sindarin Elves at Doriath, and Turgon of
Gondolin as probably the most likable (to me) Noldor ruler.

> For the Numenoreans, I'd like to suggest changing Tar-Palantir to

Ar-

> Pharazon, to accommodate any writers who choose to write from the
> non-Faithful point of view.

The *only* category in which bad guys are the awards is the Horror
category. Ar-Pharazon is not a good guy. He is the one who raped
Miriel and stole her sceptor, authorized human sacrifices to
Morgoth, and got Numenor destroyed. Even a story from the non-
Faithful point of view could still win The Elros Award or the Tar-
Palantir Award.

The three mentioned are the good or Faithful kings and queen of
Numenor.

> And instead of Nimrodel and Amroth for the Angst/Drama category,
> could I suggest The Unnumbered Tears Award for Sil-based angst?

While I would think that is a good idea at first glance, it would
require the changing of all three Awards in the Drama category to
again have a pattern. The Battle of the Unnamed Tears (or the
Nirneith Anoediad--I can't spell it correctly, but I'd bother to
look it up if that were the award) is a battle or a deed, not a
character. And again we are going for character as the other two
are characters.

But I think the main thing you are missing is that the individual
Award names are not for a particular kind of story *beyond* the
category. The Nimrodel and Amroth Award is the 3rd place award for
Drama. It has nothing to do with the plot of the story that wins
that award, except that it be about drama. So its not for Silm-
based angst or LOTR-based angst or any other-based angst. It's just
for the third place winner of the Drama category.

The only thing that would be specific about the name of the award
will be the banner representing it. So a banner depicting some
aspect of Nimrodel and Amroth would be required for The Nimrodel and
Amroth Award. But any Drama story can win it.

I hope that's more clear now.

And as I've said before, I'm not changing anything major at this
point of the game. We had time to add new categories and adjust
names for awards before Nominatin Season opened. We will have that
time again before Nomination Season next year, when you might
campaign for new names for awards or new categories.

--Ainaechoiriel

(jumping up and down, waving my hand) Ooooh, I like the Unumbered Tears Award!
What a glorious name! I could be tempted to write Sil-based angst just to get in the running for that - except I doubt I could write a story that didn't have a hobbit in it...

jo






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(crestfallen) never mind. I should read *all* the posts on a given topic before I open my mouth.

jo, sitting down with her own bar of Ghirardelli's Bittersweet

ainaechoiriel <mefaadmin@earthlink.net> wrote:





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There's always a chance for next year. Who knows, maybe we'll have a
Tragedy category. I think The Unnumbered Tears would work for that. Though
I really do like the Elvish name, though I can't spell it without looking it
up. ;-)

--Ainaechoiriel

"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.

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Blog: http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com

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