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Hey guys,

Today is October 12, which means just three more days to vote for your
banners. If you intend to vote make sure you get this done by midnight
October 15, US Central time. The banner with the most votes will be the
one used by the authors who win that award.

To vote, go to http://gabrielle.sytes.net/mefa/awardbanners.html and
look at the banners for a given category. Open another window and go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mefawards/polls/ and click on the poll
asking about that category. Select your favourite, and click the submit
button. Voila!

So why don't you give your fingernails a rest (I know I've been biting
on mine waiting for the results) and, if you haven't done so already,
vote for the banners?

Cheers,
Marta

Thanks Marta, this works much better than the way I attempted to vote on the banners the other day - I had given up. I am going through them all slowly but surely now! It is still horrendously slow on dial up though. I've been at it over an hour and am only a bit more than half way through.

Just to let you know in case you don't, there is a broken link: R/P Dwarves Erebor #5.

Marigold : )

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>Today is October 12, which means just three more days to vote for your
>banners. If you intend to vote make sure you get this done by midnight
>October 15, US Central time. The banner with the most votes will be the
>one used by the authors who win that award.
>
>To vote, go to http://gabrielle.sytes.net/mefa/awardbanners.html and
>look at the banners for a given category. Open another window and go to
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mefawards/polls/ and click on the poll
>asking about that category. Select your favourite, and click the submit
>button. Voila!
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>So why don't you give your fingernails a rest (I know I've been biting
>on mine waiting for the results) and, if you haven't done so already,
>vote for the banners?
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>Cheers,
>Marta
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>Sam, in Mordor, RoTK

Hi Marigold,

On 12 Oct 2005, at 19:39, MarigoldCotton@aol.com wrote:

> Thanks Marta, this works much better than the way I attempted to vote
> on the banners the other day - I had given up.

I apologise for the way I set up the polls. It does push people toward
a way of voting that's not the most efficient. It's actually the way
that's easiest me, but not probably for other people.

> I am going through them all slowly but surely now! It is still
> horrendously slow on dial up though. I've been at it over an hour and
> am only a bit more than half way through.
>

Can you or anyone else see a better way to do this? Would it make sense
to have all the banners on one page? That way you could let it all load
at once while you did something else.

> Just to let you know in case you don't, there is a broken link: R/P
> Dwarves Erebor #5.
>

This is the reason I labelled this (attn: Ainae) . Ainae, weren't you
going to upload this to your website?

FYI, for everyone, Erebor #5 is in the photos section of the Yahoo
group.

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/MEFAwards/lst

Then:

1. "Award banner submissions"
2. "Dwarves"
3. "Erebor"

The direct link (which is really long) is:

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/mefawards/lst?.dir=/
Award+Banner+Submission+(pls.+subdivide)/Dwarves/
Erebor&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/

Marta

-- Marta Layton <melayton@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Can you or anyone else see a better way to do this? Would it make
>> sense to have all the banners on one page? That way you could let
>> it all load at once while you did something else.

I think your suggestion would work but I'd be concerned for those (and I'm one of them) with slower connections. That type of a page would take a LONG time to load. I actually liked the way we did it last year. It worked very well for me. But I'm getting the sense that I might be in the minority on that one.

Thundera

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As a way of life, reality is highly overrated.
DahakýHercules: The Legendary Journeys
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> Just to let you know in case you don't, there is a broken link: R/P
> Dwarves Erebor #5.
>

This is the reason I labelled this (attn: Ainae) . Ainae, weren't you
going to upload this to your website?

FYI, for everyone, Erebor #5 is in the photos section of the Yahoo
group.

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/MEFAwards/lst

Then:

1. "Award banner submissions"
2. "Dwarves"
3. "Erebor"

The direct link (which is really long) is:

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/mefawards/lst?.dir=/
Award+Banner+Submission+(pls.+subdivide)/Dwarves/
Erebor&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/

Marta





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On 12 Oct 2005, at 21:40, Laura wrote:

> -- Marta Layton <melayton@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Can you or anyone else see a better way to do this? Would it make
>>> sense to have all the banners on one page? That way you could let
>>> it all load at once while you did something else.
>
> I think your suggestion would work but I'd be concerned for those (and
> I'm one of them) with slower connections. That type of a page would
> take a LONG time to load. I actually liked the way we did it last
> year. It worked very well for me. But I'm getting the sense that I
> might be in the minority on that one.
>
> Thundera
>

Thundera, can you remind me how we did them last year? I honestly
cannot remember.

Marta

-- Marta Layton <melayton@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Thundera, can you remind me how we did them last year? I honestly
>> cannot remember.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember that we had one poll for each category. And under each poll question were the banner submissions for all rankings. For example, under the Rohan poll, there was listed something like this:

1st place Theoden #1
1st place Theoden #2
1st place Theoden #3
2nd place Eomer #1
2nd place Eomer #2
2nd place Eomer #3
2nd place Eomer #4
2nd place Eomer #5
3rd place Eowyn #1
3rd place Eowyn #1

And instead of radio buttons there were checkboxes so you could select more than one. But there was a warning attached to each poll stating that you could only vote for one banner for 1st place, one for 2nd, and one for 3rd. If you didn't follow this rule, your ballot wasn't counted.

And then in the poll question itself, it said something about this being the ballot for the Rohan category and then it gave the link to the page where the Rohan award submissions were posted. So if we'd wanted to do it that way for this year, the link for Rohan would be http://gabrielle.sytes.net/mefa/bannersrohan.html

That's what I remember, anyway. And for me, the voting went pretty fast. All the awards per category were on one page and on one poll and there weren't quite as many cut and paste jobs required. I liked it. But I think I remember a few complaints about it, too. Can't remember exactly what, but I know they were there...

Thundera

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As a way of life, reality is highly overrated.
DahakýHercules: The Legendary Journeys
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Well, if the img src tag thing works on yahoo polls when I experiment with
it, (after the fifteenth) then the poll and the pictures will be on the same
page, so there won't be any going back and forth at all. I honestly missed
the link to the banners at the MEFA site, and used the photos at the yahoo
site, because for some reason it never occured to me to scroll down *bangs
head on desk*, but using the MEFA site pictures still involves going back
and forth from the poll to the pictures.
The whole thing made me feel like there has to be a better way to build a
railroad.

On 10/12/05, Laura <thunderalaura@juno.com> wrote:
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> -- Marta Layton <melayton@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Thundera, can you remind me how we did them last year? I honestly
> >> cannot remember.
>
> Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember that we had one poll for
> each category. And under each poll question were the banner submissions for
> all rankings. For example, under the Rohan poll, there was listed something
> like this:
>
> 1st place Theoden #1
> 1st place Theoden #2
> 1st place Theoden #3
> 2nd place Eomer #1
> 2nd place Eomer #2
> 2nd place Eomer #3
> 2nd place Eomer #4
> 2nd place Eomer #5
> 3rd place Eowyn #1
> 3rd place Eowyn #1
>
> And instead of radio buttons there were checkboxes so you could select
> more than one. But there was a warning attached to each poll stating that
> you could only vote for one banner for 1st place, one for 2nd, and one for
> 3rd. If you didn't follow this rule, your ballot wasn't counted.
>
> And then in the poll question itself, it said something about this being
> the ballot for the Rohan category and then it gave the link to the page
> where the Rohan award submissions were posted. So if we'd wanted to do it
> that way for this year, the link for Rohan would be
> http://gabrielle.sytes.net/mefa/bannersrohan.html
>
> That's what I remember, anyway. And for me, the voting went pretty fast.
> All the awards per category were on one page and on one poll and there
> weren't quite as many cut and paste jobs required. I liked it. But I think I
> remember a few complaints about it, too. Can't remember exactly what, but I
> know they were there...
>
> Thundera
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> ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
> As a way of life, reality is highly overrated.
> DahakýHercules: The Legendary Journeys
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I had missed the link to the banners at the MEFA site as well, and was trying to use the Yahoo images and they were so slow in opening for me that I gave up. Once Marta made her post last night it was a lot easier and a lot faster, but it still took me over two hours with dial-up to vote on everything. I was only able to do it because I am home from work sick and couldn't sleep so I had a bit of time.

I don't know much about computers but whatever Rabidsamfan has in mind sounds really good! I hope that it works : )

Marigold

>Well, if the img src tag thing works on yahoo polls when I experiment with
>it, (after the fifteenth) then the poll and the pictures will be on the same
>page, so there won't be any going back and forth at all. I honestly missed
>the link to the banners at the MEFA site, and used the photos at the yahoo
>site, because for some reason it never occured to me to scroll down *bangs
>head on desk*, but using the MEFA site pictures still involves going back
>and forth from the poll to the pictures.
> The whole thing made me feel like there has to be a better way to build a
>railroad.
>
> On 10/12/05, Laura <thunderalaura@juno.com> wrote:
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>> -- Marta Layton <melayton@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Thundera, can you remind me how we did them last year? I honestly
>> >> cannot remember.
>>
>> Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember that we had one poll for
>> each category. And under each poll question were the banner submissions for
>> all rankings. For example, under the Rohan poll, there was listed something
>> like this:
>>
>> 1st place Theoden #1
>> 1st place Theoden #2
>> 1st place Theoden #3
>> 2nd place Eomer #1
>> 2nd place Eomer #2
>> 2nd place Eomer #3
>> 2nd place Eomer #4
>> 2nd place Eomer #5
>> 3rd place Eowyn #1
>> 3rd place Eowyn #1
>>
>> And instead of radio buttons there were checkboxes so you could select
>> more than one. But there was a warning attached to each poll stating that
>> you could only vote for one banner for 1st place, one for 2nd, and one for
>> 3rd. If you didn't follow this rule, your ballot wasn't counted.
>>
>> And then in the poll question itself, it said something about this being
>> the ballot for the Rohan category and then it gave the link to the page
>> where the Rohan award submissions were posted. So if we'd wanted to do it
>> that way for this year, the link for Rohan would be
>> http://gabrielle.sytes.net/mefa/bannersrohan.html
>>
>> That's what I remember, anyway. And for me, the voting went pretty fast.
>> All the awards per category were on one page and on one poll and there
>> weren't quite as many cut and paste jobs required. I liked it. But I think I
>> remember a few complaints about it, too. Can't remember exactly what, but I
>> know they were there...
>>
>> Thundera
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>> As a way of life, reality is highly overrated.
>> Dahak—Hercules: The Legendary Journeys
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Tales of The Red Book
http://www.livejournal.com/users/talesofredbook/




There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty forever beyond its reach.

>
>Sam, in Mordor, RoTK

Hi Laura,

On 12 Oct 2005, at 22:10, Laura wrote:

> -- Marta Layton <melayton@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thundera, can you remind me how we did them last year? I honestly
>>> cannot remember.
>
> Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember that we had one poll
> for each category. And under each poll question were the banner
> submissions for all rankings. For example, under the Rohan poll, there
> was listed something like this:
>
> 1st place Theoden #1
> 1st place Theoden #2
> 1st place Theoden #3
> 2nd place Eomer #1
> 2nd place Eomer #2
> 2nd place Eomer #3
> 2nd place Eomer #4
> 2nd place Eomer #5
> 3rd place Eowyn #1
> 3rd place Eowyn #1
>

<snippage of additional details>

You know, you're probably right. Now that I think that, that does seem
(vaguely) familiar. And you're right, it probably would work better
than the current set-up.

This is definitely something to discuss in the post-mortem. It seems
like people have lots of ideas for how to improve this section of the
awards, and I agree, there needs to be a better way to do this.

Remember, if you have any ideas you'd like to discuss at the
post-mortem, email them to mefasupport@gmail.com . Everyone who had
ideas here, would you be willing to put them in a quick email to that
address? Even forwarding the emails you sent to this group should work.
This is just so I can keep it all organised.

Marta

Hi Rabidsamfan,

On 12 Oct 2005, at 23:23, C Dodd wrote:

> Well, if the img src tag thing works on yahoo polls when I experiment
> with
> it, (after the fifteenth) then the poll and the pictures will be on
> the same
> page, so there won't be any going back and forth at all. I honestly
> missed
> the link to the banners at the MEFA site, and used the photos at the
> yahoo
> site, because for some reason it never occured to me to scroll down
> *bangs
> head on desk*, but using the MEFA site pictures still involves going
> back
> and forth from the poll to the pictures.
> The whole thing made me feel like there has to be a better way to
> build a
> railroad.
>

I agree -- I'm feeling like there's definitely a better way to do
things, or should be.

Even if we're able to do the img src thing, there will still be the
problem of all the images loading on slower connections. I have my own
ideas, but I definitely want to hear what others think. Like I said,
definitely something to discuss in the post-mort.

Marta

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Marta Layton <melayton@g...> wrote:

> > Just to let you know in case you don't, there is a broken link: R/P
> > Dwarves Erebor #5.
> >
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> This is the reason I labelled this (attn: Ainae) . Ainae, weren't you
> going to upload this to your website?

This is one of mine. I resent the file to Ainae. Ainae, I can send
it again if you didn't get it.

Elana