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Hey guys,

Sulriel pointed out to me a most extraordinary stat to me the other
day: Elena Tiriel had eight pieces nominated for the awards, all of
which placed. This made me go look for other authors with similar
accomplishments. (When I say "placed" I mean received first, second, or
third place.)

* Elena Tiriel - Eight pieces, eight placed.
* SilverMoonLady - Seven pieces, seven passed.
* Llinos - Six pieces, six placed.
* Bejai - Five pieces, three placed, two honourable mentions.

These four authors are truly outstanding in my mind because they're the
only ones with that many stories nominated who either placed or
received an honourable mention for all of those stories. Here are some
other authors who had multiple stories nominated and where each of
those stories placed or received an honourable mention.

*** 4 stories ***
Citrine
Nancy Brooke
Rhapsody
Sulriel

*** 3 stories ***
EdorasLass
elliska
Erin's Daughter
Honesty
Salsify

*** 2 stories ***
Inkling
Lamiel
Marastar
Mouse
picara
shadow975

It's entirely possible that I missed a name; sulriel and I collected
these names by eyeballing the "browse nominations" page. But I think
these authors truly deserve a round of applause for consistently
producing such high-quality work.

So, to echo a certain hobbit named Baggins, "Hear, hear!"

Marta
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This is really cool Marta--it really speaks to how prolific and
consistantly wonderful these authors are. Here are some others that
did really well:

Werecat: 14 stories placed and 1 other HM
Daw the Minstrel: 7 stories placed and 1 HM
Bodkin: 7 stories placed and 1 HM
Marnie: 6 stories and 2 HM
Thundera: 5 stories placed and several HM
Nilmandra: 4 stories placed
Jay of Lasgalen: 4 stories placed and 1 HM
Karenator: 2 stories placed

Yeah for everyone who won! :-)

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Marta Layton <melayton@g...> wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> Sulriel pointed out to me a most extraordinary stat to me the
other
> day: Elena Tiriel had eight pieces nominated for the awards, all
of
> which placed. This made me go look for other authors with similar
> accomplishments. (When I say "placed" I mean received first,
second, or
> third place.)
>
> * Elena Tiriel - Eight pieces, eight placed.
> * SilverMoonLady - Seven pieces, seven passed.
> * Llinos - Six pieces, six placed.
> * Bejai - Five pieces, three placed, two honourable mentions.
>
> These four authors are truly outstanding in my mind because
they're the
> only ones with that many stories nominated who either placed or
> received an honourable mention for all of those stories. Here are
some
> other authors who had multiple stories nominated and where each of
> those stories placed or received an honourable mention.
>
> *** 4 stories ***
> Citrine
> Nancy Brooke
> Rhapsody
> Sulriel
>
> *** 3 stories ***
> EdorasLass
> elliska
> Erin's Daughter
> Honesty
> Salsify
>
> *** 2 stories ***
> Inkling
> Lamiel
> Marastar
> Mouse
> picara
> shadow975
>
> It's entirely possible that I missed a name; sulriel and I
collected
> these names by eyeballing the "browse nominations" page. But I
think
> these authors truly deserve a round of applause for consistently
> producing such high-quality work.
>
> So, to echo a certain hobbit named Baggins, "Hear, hear!"
>
> Marta
> *****
> Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Thanks for rounding these up, Elliska. There are several authors
(myself included) who received lots of awards, but not such a high
proportion of the stories that they won. It's possible to write a lot
of drabbles in a year. ;-) I am really blown away by people who are so
consistent in their quality that so many of what they have nominated
wins so many awards.

Cheers,
Marta

On 24 Oct 2005, at 07:28, elliska67 wrote:

> This is really cool Marta--it really speaks to how prolific and
> consistantly wonderful these authors are. Here are some others that
> did really well:
>
> Werecat: 14 stories placed and 1 other HM
> Daw the Minstrel: 7 stories placed and 1 HM
> Bodkin: 7 stories placed and 1 HM
> Marnie: 6 stories and 2 HM
> Thundera: 5 stories placed and several HM
> Nilmandra: 4 stories placed
> Jay of Lasgalen: 4 stories placed and 1 HM
> Karenator: 2 stories placed
>
> Yeah for everyone who won! :-)
>
> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Marta Layton <melayton@g...> wrote:
> >
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > Sulriel pointed out to me a most extraordinary stat to me the
> other
> > day: Elena Tiriel had eight pieces nominated for the awards, all
> of
> > which placed. This made me go look for other authors with similar
> > accomplishments. (When I say "placed" I mean received first,
> second, or
> > third place.)
> >
> > * Elena Tiriel - Eight pieces, eight placed.
> > * SilverMoonLady - Seven pieces, seven passed.
> > * Llinos - Six pieces, six placed.
> > * Bejai - Five pieces, three placed, two honourable mentions.
> >
> > These four authors are truly outstanding in my mind because
> they're the
> > only ones with that many stories nominated who either placed or
> > received an honourable mention for all of those stories. Here are
> some
> > other authors who had multiple stories nominated and where each of
> > those stories placed or received an honourable mention.
> >
> > *** 4 stories ***
> > Citrine
> > Nancy Brooke
> > Rhapsody
> > Sulriel
> >
> > *** 3 stories ***
> > EdorasLass
> > elliska
> > Erin's Daughter
> > Honesty
> > Salsify
> >
> > *** 2 stories ***
> > Inkling
> > Lamiel
> > Marastar
> > Mouse
> > picara
> > shadow975
> >
> > It's entirely possible that I missed a name; sulriel and I
> collected
> > these names by eyeballing the "browse nominations" page. But I
> think
> > these authors truly deserve a round of applause for consistently
> > producing such high-quality work.
> >
> > So, to echo a certain hobbit named Baggins, "Hear, hear!"
> >
> > Marta
> > *****
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I appreciate that these authors did so well, but I do think that it is a bit unfair to pick out selected names and post them here this way - it is bound to cause hurt feelings. Someone who may have had only one or two stories nominated and won one honourable mention may have felt really good about that recognition of their work (and deservedly so!) until reading this list of prolific authors with lots of awards.

And we shouldn't just say "yay for everybody that won" - it should be Yay! for everybody that participated! That's what these awards are about, participation and feedback. Winning is nice on top of that of course, but not every story can win obviously. Everyone that took part in the awards should be chuffed to have just been nominated and to have taken part. An award is icing on the cake.

I don't mean to be a stick-in-the-mud, but some writers have fragile egos or doubt their talent, and I hate to think that any of the people here might be made to feel bad because they didn't *write enough* or they didn't win *enough* awards, and so might think (erroneously) that their awards aren't as meaningful as another writer's might be.

I know that this wasn't anyone's intention, but by going through and picking out certain authors you are in a way awarding them again, over and above the folks who aren't listed, if that makes any sense, by implying that they are more special than everyone else.

Cheers,

Marigold

>This is really cool Marta--it really speaks to how prolific and
>consistantly wonderful these authors are. Here are some others that
>did really well:
>
>Werecat: 14 stories placed and 1 other HM
>Daw the Minstrel: 7 stories placed and 1 HM
>Bodkin: 7 stories placed and 1 HM
>Marnie: 6 stories and 2 HM
>Thundera: 5 stories placed and several HM
>Nilmandra: 4 stories placed
>Jay of Lasgalen: 4 stories placed and 1 HM
>Karenator: 2 stories placed
>
>Yeah for everyone who won! :-)
>
>--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Marta Layton <melayton@g...> wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> Sulriel pointed out to me a most extraordinary stat to me the
>other
>> day: Elena Tiriel had eight pieces nominated for the awards, all
>of
>> which placed. This made me go look for other authors with similar
>> accomplishments. (When I say "placed" I mean received first,
>second, or
>> third place.)
>>
>> * Elena Tiriel - Eight pieces, eight placed.
>> * SilverMoonLady - Seven pieces, seven passed.
>> * Llinos - Six pieces, six placed.
>> * Bejai - Five pieces, three placed, two honourable mentions.
>>
>> These four authors are truly outstanding in my mind because
>they're the
>> only ones with that many stories nominated who either placed or
>> received an honourable mention for all of those stories. Here are
>some
>> other authors who had multiple stories nominated and where each of
>> those stories placed or received an honourable mention.
>>
>> *** 4 stories ***
>> Citrine
>> Nancy Brooke
>> Rhapsody
>> Sulriel
>>
>> *** 3 stories ***
>> EdorasLass
>> elliska
>> Erin's Daughter
>> Honesty
>> Salsify
>>
>> *** 2 stories ***
>> Inkling
>> Lamiel
>> Marastar
>> Mouse
>> picara
>> shadow975
>>
>> It's entirely possible that I missed a name; sulriel and I
>collected
>> these names by eyeballing the "browse nominations" page. But I
>think
>> these authors truly deserve a round of applause for consistently
>> producing such high-quality work.
>>
>> So, to echo a certain hobbit named Baggins, "Hear, hear!"
>>
>> Marta
>> *****
>>   Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Not to mention the 'not enough time to read' factor that meant that some
authors didn't get read as much as others did... I'm with you, Marigold. One
of the nice things is that there are a gazillion awards, so lots of people
got them, but counting coup is bound to generate a few bruises.
And at the same time, it's kind of nice to know about the high averages --
people whose work did consistently well. I've got some ideas for the post
mortem about awards, and numbers, and oh, gosh, the computer can figure THAT
out so why not.... *grin*

On 10/24/05, MarigoldCotton@aol.com <MarigoldCotton@aol.com> wrote:
>
> I appreciate that these authors did so well, but I do think that it is a
> bit unfair to pick out selected names and post them here this way - it is
> bound to cause hurt feelings. Someone who may have had only one or two
> stories nominated and won one honourable mention may have felt really good
> about that recognition of their work (and deservedly so!) until reading this
> list of prolific authors with lots of awards.
>
> And we shouldn't just say "yay for everybody that won" - it should be Yay!
> for everybody that participated! That's what these awards are about,
> participation and feedback. Winning is nice on top of that of course, but
> not every story can win obviously. Everyone that took part in the awards
> should be chuffed to have just been nominated and to have taken part. An
> award is icing on the cake.
>
> I don't mean to be a stick-in-the-mud, but some writers have fragile egos
> or doubt their talent, and I hate to think that any of the people here might
> be made to feel bad because they didn't *write enough* or they didn't win
> *enough* awards, and so might think (erroneously) that their awards aren't
> as meaningful as another writer's might be.
>
> I know that this wasn't anyone's intention, but by going through and
> picking out certain authors you are in a way awarding them again, over and
> above the folks who aren't listed, if that makes any sense, by implying that
> they are more special than everyone else.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marigold
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >This is really cool Marta--it really speaks to how prolific and
> >consistantly wonderful these authors are. Here are some others that
> >did really well:
> >
> >Werecat: 14 stories placed and 1 other HM
> >Daw the Minstrel: 7 stories placed and 1 HM
> >Bodkin: 7 stories placed and 1 HM
> >Marnie: 6 stories and 2 HM
> >Thundera: 5 stories placed and several HM
> >Nilmandra: 4 stories placed
> >Jay of Lasgalen: 4 stories placed and 1 HM
> >Karenator: 2 stories placed
> >
> >Yeah for everyone who won! :-)
> >
> >--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Marta Layton <melayton@g...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey guys,
> >>
> >> Sulriel pointed out to me a most extraordinary stat to me the
> >other
> >> day: Elena Tiriel had eight pieces nominated for the awards, all
> >of
> >> which placed. This made me go look for other authors with similar
> >> accomplishments. (When I say "placed" I mean received first,
> >second, or
> >> third place.)
> >>
> >> * Elena Tiriel - Eight pieces, eight placed.
> >> * SilverMoonLady - Seven pieces, seven passed.
> >> * Llinos - Six pieces, six placed.
> >> * Bejai - Five pieces, three placed, two honourable mentions.
> >>
> >> These four authors are truly outstanding in my mind because
> >they're the
> >> only ones with that many stories nominated who either placed or
> >> received an honourable mention for all of those stories. Here are
> >some
> >> other authors who had multiple stories nominated and where each of
> >> those stories placed or received an honourable mention.
> >>
> >> *** 4 stories ***
> >> Citrine
> >> Nancy Brooke
> >> Rhapsody
> >> Sulriel
> >>
> >> *** 3 stories ***
> >> EdorasLass
> >> elliska
> >> Erin's Daughter
> >> Honesty
> >> Salsify
> >>
> >> *** 2 stories ***
> >> Inkling
> >> Lamiel
> >> Marastar
> >> Mouse
> >> picara
> >> shadow975
> >>
> >> It's entirely possible that I missed a name; sulriel and I
> >collected
> >> these names by eyeballing the "browse nominations" page. But I
> >think
> >> these authors truly deserve a round of applause for consistently
> >> producing such high-quality work.
> >>
> >> So, to echo a certain hobbit named Baggins, "Hear, hear!"
> >>
> >> Marta
> >> *****
> >> Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
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> him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the
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Greetings all ~

I confess that for an instant I felt sort of left out - but then
again, I know darned good and well that I've not written as *many*
stories in the past year, and that the stories I produced were
nowhere near the quality of my favorites such as "Last Grey Ship." I
was in fact blessed with a lovely quantity of awards this year, and I
reminded myself ...

.... It's not about me. For my own self, this year's MEFAs was my
chance to vote on the stories of *other* authors in the fandom, whose
works I have long admired and whom I felt have influenced me to be a
better writer. Thus, this year, my voting in the MEFAs was all about
saluting *other* authors. One of the most joyous results of this
year's awards was, for me, seeing Kielle's work so generously
awarded - I hope someone has passed word of this on to her husband,
so he will know how lovingly her gift of writing is remembered.

And I am overjoyed to see so many of my favorite authors likewise
honored, confirming for me the beauty and craft of LOTR fan fiction.
So I also agree - cheers are due to those whose work excelled in
their marks, but cheers are also due to ALL our nominated authors.
The best of the best is gathered here, and many have been my guiding
lights in what fan fiction should aspire to be.

Bless you all - and I promise soon I'll sit down to compose an email
thanking by name EVERYone who blessed me with their reviews.

{{*HUGS!*}}

~ Erin
aka ErinRua

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, MarigoldCotton@a... wrote:
>
> I appreciate that these authors did so well, but I do think that it
is a bit unfair to pick out selected names and post them here this
way - it is bound to cause hurt feelings. Someone who may have had
only one or two stories nominated and won one honourable mention may
have felt really good about that recognition of their work (and
deservedly so!) until reading this list of prolific authors with lots
of awards.
>
> And we shouldn't just say "yay for everybody that won" - it should
be Yay! for everybody that participated! That's what these awards are
about, participation and feedback. Winning is nice on top of that of
course, but not every story can win obviously. Everyone that took
part in the awards should be chuffed to have just been nominated and
to have taken part. An award is icing on the cake.
>

Rabidsamfan and Marigold,

You guys are absolutely right. When I decided to post this I didn't
think about wounding egos, but now that I consider it I definitely see
your point.

I'm actually a bit shame-faced that I didn't view things from this
perspective from the beginning. While it is nice to see people who are
especially praise-worthy in one way or another, it's nearly impossible
not to miss someone, or to make people feel bad for not accomplishing
as much as someone else. I'm sorry if my hastiness hurt someone's
feelings, and won't single people out in the future.

Marta

That's okay. Your heart was in the right place. And being perfect is boring
anyway. ;)

On 10/24/05, Marta Layton <melayton@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Rabidsamfan and Marigold,
>
> You guys are absolutely right. When I decided to post this I didn't
> think about wounding egos, but now that I consider it I definitely see
> your point.
>
> I'm actually a bit shame-faced that I didn't view things from this
> perspective from the beginning. While it is nice to see people who are
> especially praise-worthy in one way or another, it's nearly impossible
> not to miss someone, or to make people feel bad for not accomplishing
> as much as someone else. I'm sorry if my hastiness hurt someone's
> feelings, and won't single people out in the future.
>
> Marta
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Hi Marta,

I am sure that you didn't mean anything purposely, no worries. It's just that comments like this can make people feel excluded. Even ErinRua, a well-known, respected, and established author said that she felt left out for a moment.

A newer, less well known author that took a chance and put their work out to be judged might have felt very badly and not come forward to say so. I just felt that I should say something on their behalf. I wanted to let them know that they and their work are just as valued and appreciated as the work of more well-known and/or prolific authors.

Hugs,

Marigold

>Rabidsamfan and Marigold,
>
>You guys are absolutely right. When I decided to post this I didn't
>think about wounding egos, but now that I consider it I definitely see
>your point.
>
>I'm actually a bit shame-faced that I didn't view things from this
>perspective from the beginning. While it is nice to see people who are
>especially praise-worthy in one way or another, it's nearly impossible
>not to miss someone, or to make people feel bad for not accomplishing
>as much as someone else. I'm sorry if my hastiness hurt someone's
>feelings, and won't single people out in the future.
>
>Marta
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
Marigold's Red Book
http://marigold.tolkienshire.com

Marigold's Recommendations Page
http://www.geocities.com/marigoldsrecommendations/

Marigold's Live Journal
http://www.livejournal.com/users/marigoldg/

Tales of The Red Book
http://www.livejournal.com/users/talesofredbook/




There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty forever beyond its reach.

>
>Sam, in Mordor, RoTK

Marta shouldn't have to apologize, it was my idea, I noticed that
*all* of ET's entries won an award and thought that was extraordinary
enough for a special mention. Marta looked through the list and
found the others. We discussed it very briefly and I asked her to
post it since I've been out of town.

I've already caused one huge 'incident' by trying to help people feel
good and I'm sick at seeing this headed in the same direction.

I've been a supporter all along of these feel-good awards and I love
the fact that there are so many different awards handed out to so
many different people. There was discussion that so many awards
would dilute the overall meaning and I don't think that's happened at
all. And at the same time, I think it's possible to give a nod of
respect to each other - especially to those four who pulled off what
I consider to be a pretty extraordinary feat - I believe that it's
possible to raise some up without pushing others down. I'm genuinely
tickled for Barbara and the others who showed such consistency in
their work and wanted to honor them and share that fun kind of joy.

I know that we're all fragile, all artists are to a point, but I also
believe that we should be able to be glad for other's success as
well, especially in this kind of awards system.

Sulriel

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, MarigoldCotton@a... wrote:
>
> Hi Marta,
>
> I am sure that you didn't mean anything purposely, no worries. It's
just that comments like this can make people feel excluded. Even
ErinRua, a well-known, respected, and established author said that
she felt left out for a moment.
>
> A newer, less well known author that took a chance and put their
work out to be judged might have felt very badly and not come forward
to say so. I just felt that I should say something on their behalf. I
wanted to let them know that they and their work are just as valued
and appreciated as the work of more well-known and/or prolific
authors.
>
> Hugs,
>
> Marigold
>
>
> >Rabidsamfan and Marigold,
> >
> >You guys are absolutely right. When I decided to post this I
didn't
> >think about wounding egos, but now that I consider it I definitely
see
> >your point.
> >
> >I'm actually a bit shame-faced that I didn't view things from this
> >perspective from the beginning. While it is nice to see people who
are
> >especially praise-worthy in one way or another, it's nearly
impossible
> >not to miss someone, or to make people feel bad for not
accomplishing
> >as much as someone else. I'm sorry if my hastiness hurt someone's
> >feelings, and won't single people out in the future.
> >
> >Marta
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Marigold's Red Book
> http://marigold.tolkienshire.com
>
> Marigold's Recommendations Page
> http://www.geocities.com/marigoldsrecommendations/
>
> Marigold's Live Journal
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/marigoldg/
>
> Tales of The Red Book
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/talesofredbook/
>
>
>
>
> There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in
the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty
of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and
hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought
pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing
thing: there was light and high beauty forever beyond its reach.
> >
> >Sam, in Mordor, RoTK
>

To Marta and Sulriel ~

*HUGS*

Stop apologising, everyone. Nothing was done out of maliciousness,
and every word was meant in the very kindest of intent. It was the
equivalent of saying, "Wow, look what movie got all those Oscars!" -
which does not belittle anyone else who got other honors in other
things.

To everyone ~ Feel good awards? To quote the immortal Colonel
Potter, "You bet your sweet bippy" they are. I feel good. I feel
overjoyed, overwhelmed, and over the moon that ANY of my writing
received honors at all. And when I read the lovely, lovely remarks
my readers left, some of them people I've never heard from before in
my life ... I could weep. How blessed I am! How lucky we all are,
to have this chance to not only enjoy our own success, but to cheer
and reward the efforts of others.

As I said earlier, my entire intent for voting in this year's MEFAs
was the purpose of making other authors "feel good". I wanted to
salute as many as I could whose work I have long loved, and to let my
review add up among the honors their works earned. The world is
changing, my friends. The movies are over, and by this time next
year, the landscape of the LOTR fandom will have subtly changed.
Some of us will fade, some of us will carry on, some new voices will
appear, but ... time marches, and we march with it. Already some of
the movie fan sites are gone, some of the story archives are
stagnating. Tolkien will remain - we as Tolkien fans will not pass
away into the West. But I see this now, here with the slow changing
of the tide, as our chance to embrace each other.

Look what we have done! Look what, in four years, we have
accomplished! How many of us have emerged from lifetimes in the dark
to share our words and stories for the first time with kindred
souls? How many of us never dared to pick up those beloved stories
and fill in the many gaps left behind, until we met like-minded folks
who dreamed the same? How many of us have found a fellowship of
creative growth that exists nowhere else in the world, save here,
beneath Earendil's star?

Feel good, dear ones. Feel blessed. Exult in all we have done and
all we have won, and all we have been privileged to share. And for
those whose stars are held just a little higher - let them light our
way, to the next stories, to the next dreams we may follow.

With love and gratitude ~

Erin
aka ErinRua

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "sulriel" <Sulriel@h...> wrote:
>
>
> Marta shouldn't have to apologize, it was my idea, I noticed that
> *all* of ET's entries won an award and thought that was
extraordinary
> enough for a special mention. Marta looked through the list and
> found the others. We discussed it very briefly and I asked her to
> post it since I've been out of town.
>
> I've already caused one huge 'incident' by trying to help people
feel
> good and I'm sick at seeing this headed in the same direction.
>
> I've been a supporter all along of these feel-good awards and I
love
> the fact that there are so many different awards handed out to so
> many different people. There was discussion that so many awards
> would dilute the overall meaning and I don't think that's happened
at
> all. And at the same time, I think it's possible to give a nod of
> respect to each other - especially to those four who pulled off
what
> I consider to be a pretty extraordinary feat - I believe that it's
> possible to raise some up without pushing others down. I'm
genuinely
> tickled for Barbara and the others who showed such consistency in
> their work and wanted to honor them and share that fun kind of joy.
>
> I know that we're all fragile, all artists are to a point, but I
also
> believe that we should be able to be glad for other's success as
> well, especially in this kind of awards system.
>
> Sulriel
>
>
> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, MarigoldCotton@a... wrote:
> >
> > Hi Marta,
> >
> > I am sure that you didn't mean anything purposely, no worries.
It's
> just that comments like this can make people feel excluded. Even
> ErinRua, a well-known, respected, and established author said that
> she felt left out for a moment.
> >
> > A newer, less well known author that took a chance and put their
> work out to be judged might have felt very badly and not come
forward
> to say so. I just felt that I should say something on their behalf.
I
> wanted to let them know that they and their work are just as valued
> and appreciated as the work of more well-known and/or prolific
> authors.
> >
> > Hugs,
> >
> > Marigold
> >
> >
> > >Rabidsamfan and Marigold,
> > >
> > >You guys are absolutely right. When I decided to post this I
> didn't
> > >think about wounding egos, but now that I consider it I
definitely
> see
> > >your point.
> > >
> > >I'm actually a bit shame-faced that I didn't view things from
this
> > >perspective from the beginning. While it is nice to see people
who
> are
> > >especially praise-worthy in one way or another, it's nearly
> impossible
> > >not to miss someone, or to make people feel bad for not
> accomplishing
> > >as much as someone else. I'm sorry if my hastiness hurt
someone's
> > >feelings, and won't single people out in the future.
> > >
> > >Marta
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marigold's Red Book
> > http://marigold.tolkienshire.com
> >
> > Marigold's Recommendations Page
> > http://www.geocities.com/marigoldsrecommendations/
> >
> > Marigold's Live Journal
> > http://www.livejournal.com/users/marigoldg/
> >
> > Tales of The Red Book
> > http://www.livejournal.com/users/talesofredbook/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in
> the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty
> of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land,
and
> hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought
> pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing
> thing: there was light and high beauty forever beyond its reach.
> > >
> > >Sam, in Mordor, RoTK
> >
>

Hear, hear! My dear, you are so right--for me my greatest thrill this year
was seeing the honors my nominees got! I had heaps of fun, read a number of
stories I would never have seen without the MEFAs, even stories without any
hobbits, if you can believe it, LOL!
It is a wonderful way to give "attaboys" to others, and by the way, garner a
few here and there ourselves. I loved and appreciated every single review I
got. I freely admit I am a glutton for reviews, and cannot get enough of
them--but I also love to give them as well.
I scarcely even read published fic any more--the instant communication with
the author provided by fanfic is far more gratifying--no other medium really
provides that.
I have loved taking part in the MEFAs, and hope that I can do even more next
year.
Dreamflower
(Barbara)

----- Original Message -----
From: "erin_hobbit_ofbt" <erin_hobbit_ofbt@yahoo.com>
To: <MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:55 PM
Subject: [MEFAwards] Re: CV


> To Marta and Sulriel ~
>
> *HUGS*
>
> Stop apologising, everyone. Nothing was done out of maliciousness,
> and every word was meant in the very kindest of intent. It was the
> equivalent of saying, "Wow, look what movie got all those Oscars!" -
> which does not belittle anyone else who got other honors in other
> things.
>
> To everyone ~ Feel good awards? To quote the immortal Colonel
> Potter, "You bet your sweet bippy" they are. I feel good. I feel
> overjoyed, overwhelmed, and over the moon that ANY of my writing
> received honors at all. And when I read the lovely, lovely remarks
> my readers left, some of them people I've never heard from before in
> my life ... I could weep. How blessed I am! How lucky we all are,
> to have this chance to not only enjoy our own success, but to cheer
> and reward the efforts of others.
>
> As I said earlier, my entire intent for voting in this year's MEFAs
> was the purpose of making other authors "feel good". I wanted to
> salute as many as I could whose work I have long loved, and to let my
> review add up among the honors their works earned. The world is
> changing, my friends. The movies are over, and by this time next
> year, the landscape of the LOTR fandom will have subtly changed.
> Some of us will fade, some of us will carry on, some new voices will
> appear, but ... time marches, and we march with it. Already some of
> the movie fan sites are gone, some of the story archives are
> stagnating. Tolkien will remain - we as Tolkien fans will not pass
> away into the West. But I see this now, here with the slow changing
> of the tide, as our chance to embrace each other.
>
> Look what we have done! Look what, in four years, we have
> accomplished! How many of us have emerged from lifetimes in the dark
> to share our words and stories for the first time with kindred
> souls? How many of us never dared to pick up those beloved stories
> and fill in the many gaps left behind, until we met like-minded folks
> who dreamed the same? How many of us have found a fellowship of
> creative growth that exists nowhere else in the world, save here,
> beneath Earendil's star?
>
> Feel good, dear ones. Feel blessed. Exult in all we have done and
> all we have won, and all we have been privileged to share. And for
> those whose stars are held just a little higher - let them light our
> way, to the next stories, to the next dreams we may follow.
>
> With love and gratitude ~
>
> Erin
> aka ErinRua
>
>
> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "sulriel" <Sulriel@h...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Marta shouldn't have to apologize, it was my idea, I noticed that
>> *all* of ET's entries won an award and thought that was
> extraordinary
>> enough for a special mention. Marta looked through the list and
>> found the others. We discussed it very briefly and I asked her to
>> post it since I've been out of town.
>>
>> I've already caused one huge 'incident' by trying to help people
> feel
>> good and I'm sick at seeing this headed in the same direction.
>>
>> I've been a supporter all along of these feel-good awards and I
> love
>> the fact that there are so many different awards handed out to so
>> many different people. There was discussion that so many awards
>> would dilute the overall meaning and I don't think that's happened
> at
>> all. And at the same time, I think it's possible to give a nod of
>> respect to each other - especially to those four who pulled off
> what
>> I consider to be a pretty extraordinary feat - I believe that it's
>> possible to raise some up without pushing others down. I'm
> genuinely
>> tickled for Barbara and the others who showed such consistency in
>> their work and wanted to honor them and share that fun kind of joy.
>>
>> I know that we're all fragile, all artists are to a point, but I
> also
>> believe that we should be able to be glad for other's success as
>> well, especially in this kind of awards system.
>>
>> Sulriel
>>
>>
>> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, MarigoldCotton@a... wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Marta,
>> >
>> > I am sure that you didn't mean anything purposely, no worries.
> It's
>> just that comments like this can make people feel excluded. Even
>> ErinRua, a well-known, respected, and established author said that
>> she felt left out for a moment.
>> >
>> > A newer, less well known author that took a chance and put their
>> work out to be judged might have felt very badly and not come
> forward
>> to say so. I just felt that I should say something on their behalf.
> I
>> wanted to let them know that they and their work are just as valued
>> and appreciated as the work of more well-known and/or prolific
>> authors.
>> >
>> > Hugs,
>> >
>> > Marigold
>> >
>> >
>> > >Rabidsamfan and Marigold,
>> > >
>> > >You guys are absolutely right. When I decided to post this I
>> didn't
>> > >think about wounding egos, but now that I consider it I
> definitely
>> see
>> > >your point.
>> > >
>> > >I'm actually a bit shame-faced that I didn't view things from
> this
>> > >perspective from the beginning. While it is nice to see people
> who
>> are
>> > >especially praise-worthy in one way or another, it's nearly
>> impossible
>> > >not to miss someone, or to make people feel bad for not
>> accomplishing
>> > >as much as someone else. I'm sorry if my hastiness hurt
> someone's
>> > >feelings, and won't single people out in the future.
>> > >
>> > >Marta
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Marigold's Red Book
>> > http://marigold.tolkienshire.com
>> >
>> > Marigold's Recommendations Page
>> > http://www.geocities.com/marigoldsrecommendations/
>> >
>> > Marigold's Live Journal
>> > http://www.livejournal.com/users/marigoldg/
>> >
>> > Tales of The Red Book
>> > http://www.livejournal.com/users/talesofredbook/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in
>> the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty
>> of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land,
> and
>> hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought
>> pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing
>> thing: there was light and high beauty forever beyond its reach.
>> > >
>> > >Sam, in Mordor, RoTK
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

-- "erin_hobbit_ofbt" <erin_hobbit_ofbt@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> To Marta and Sulriel ~
>>
>> *HUGS*

<snip giant glorious email>

Erin, have I ever told you just how brilliant you are? If not, I'll say it again. You rock!

And ditto on everything you said, too. I've picked up some incredible feedback and heard from some truly gifted people. Beyond that, the greatest part of these awards to me was getting to read stories I wouldn't have read otherwise and watching as some of my favorite author received recognition they wouldn't have otherwise received.

Thundera

~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
As a way of life, reality is highly overrated.
DahakýHercules: The Legendary Journeys
~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~

As an author who had two stories nominated, and one that won an honourable
mention, I can appreciate that there are some who have achieved great things
- i.e. having seven stories nominated and wining seven awards. I think that
is fantastic and I am so proud and happy for them at the same time. It
becomes very difficult when we are so self-conscious about ourselves that we
cannot recognize the accomplishments of others.

Nerdanel



ýYet the lies that Melkor, the mighty and accursed, Morgoth Bauglir, the
Power of Terror and Hate, sowed in the hearts of Elves and Men are a seed
that does not die and cannot be destroyed; and ever and anon it sprouts
anew, and will bear dark fruit even unto the latest days.ý
-The Silmarillion, Of the Voyage of Eýrendil and the War of Wrath




----Original Message Follows----
From: "sulriel" <Sulriel@htcomp.net>
Reply-To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MEFAwards] Re: CV
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:11:01 -0000


Marta shouldn't have to apologize, it was my idea, I noticed that
*all* of ET's entries won an award and thought that was extraordinary
enough for a special mention. Marta looked through the list and
found the others. We discussed it very briefly and I asked her to
post it since I've been out of town.

I've already caused one huge 'incident' by trying to help people feel
good and I'm sick at seeing this headed in the same direction.

I've been a supporter all along of these feel-good awards and I love
the fact that there are so many different awards handed out to so
many different people. There was discussion that so many awards
would dilute the overall meaning and I don't think that's happened at
all. And at the same time, I think it's possible to give a nod of
respect to each other - especially to those four who pulled off what
I consider to be a pretty extraordinary feat - I believe that it's
possible to raise some up without pushing others down. I'm genuinely
tickled for Barbara and the others who showed such consistency in
their work and wanted to honor them and share that fun kind of joy.

I know that we're all fragile, all artists are to a point, but I also
believe that we should be able to be glad for other's success as
well, especially in this kind of awards system.

Sulriel

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, MarigoldCotton@a... wrote:
>
> Hi Marta,
>
> I am sure that you didn't mean anything purposely, no worries. It's
just that comments like this can make people feel excluded. Even
ErinRua, a well-known, respected, and established author said that
she felt left out for a moment.
>
> A newer, less well known author that took a chance and put their
work out to be judged might have felt very badly and not come forward
to say so. I just felt that I should say something on their behalf. I
wanted to let them know that they and their work are just as valued
and appreciated as the work of more well-known and/or prolific
authors.
>
> Hugs,
>
> Marigold
>
>
> >Rabidsamfan and Marigold,
> >
> >You guys are absolutely right. When I decided to post this I
didn't
> >think about wounding egos, but now that I consider it I definitely
see
> >your point.
> >
> >I'm actually a bit shame-faced that I didn't view things from this
> >perspective from the beginning. While it is nice to see people who
are
> >especially praise-worthy in one way or another, it's nearly
impossible
> >not to miss someone, or to make people feel bad for not
accomplishing
> >as much as someone else. I'm sorry if my hastiness hurt someone's
> >feelings, and won't single people out in the future.
> >
> >Marta
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Marigold's Red Book
> http://marigold.tolkienshire.com
>
> Marigold's Recommendations Page
> http://www.geocities.com/marigoldsrecommendations/
>
> Marigold's Live Journal
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/marigoldg/
>
> Tales of The Red Book
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/talesofredbook/
>
>
>
>
> There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in
the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty
of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and
hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought
pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing
thing: there was light and high beauty forever beyond its reach.
> >
> >Sam, in Mordor, RoTK
>

In a message dated 10/25/2005 6:53:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
aveldhu@hotmail.com writes:
Hey, Thanks Nerdanel, I was just wondering where to get more info on the
Morgoth's ring stuff. You rock

Jes


Nerdanel



Yet the lies that Melkor, the mighty and accursed, Morgoth Bauglir, the
Power of Terror and Hate, sowed in the hearts of Elves and Men are a seed
that does not die and cannot be destroyed; and ever and anon it sprouts
anew, and will bear dark fruit even unto the latest days.
-The Silmarillion, Of the Voyage of Eärendil and the War of Wrath






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Marigold,

On 24 Oct 2005, at 16:12, MarigoldCotton@aol.com wrote:

> Hi Marta,
>
> I am sure that you didn't mean anything purposely, no worries. It's
> just that comments like this can make people feel excluded. Even
> ErinRua, a well-known, respected, and established author said that she
> felt left out for a moment.
>
> A newer, less well known author that took a chance and put their work
> out to be judged might have felt very badly and not come forward to
> say so. I just felt that I should say something on their behalf. I
> wanted to let them know that they and their work are just as valued
> and appreciated as the work of more well-known and/or prolific
> authors.
>

You know this, of course, but I would never, *never* want to make
anyone feel left out. In fact, when sulriel suggested this my first
thought is it would help recognise those authors who were less prolific
or didn't have years of writings nominated, but who consistently did
well. Obviously it didn't have quite that effect, and with my perfect
20/20 hindsight I can see why it didn't.

Thanks for sticking up for those lesser-known authors.

Marta

Beautifully said Erin!!

Hugs,

Marigold

>To Marta and Sulriel ~
>
>*HUGS*
>
>Stop apologising, everyone.  Nothing was done out of maliciousness,
>and every word was meant in the very kindest of intent.  It was the
>equivalent of saying, "Wow, look what movie got all those Oscars!" -
>which does not belittle anyone else who got other honors in other
>things.
>
>To everyone ~ Feel good awards?  To quote the immortal Colonel
>Potter, "You bet your sweet bippy" they are.  I feel good.  I feel
>overjoyed, overwhelmed, and over the moon that ANY of my writing
>received honors at all.  And when I read the lovely, lovely remarks
>my readers left, some of them people I've never heard from before in
>my life ... I could weep.  How blessed I am!  How lucky we all are,
>to have this chance to not only enjoy our own success, but to cheer
>and reward the efforts of others.
>
>As I said earlier, my entire intent for voting in this year's MEFAs
>was the purpose of making other authors "feel good".  I wanted to
>salute as many as I could whose work I have long loved, and to let my
>review add up among the honors their works earned.  The world is
>changing, my friends.  The movies are over, and by this time next
>year, the landscape of the LOTR fandom will have subtly changed.  
>Some of us will fade, some of us will carry on, some new voices will
>appear, but ... time marches, and we march with it.  Already some of
>the movie fan sites are gone, some of the story archives are
>stagnating.  Tolkien will remain - we as Tolkien fans will not pass
>away into the West.  But I see this now, here with the slow changing
>of the tide, as our chance to embrace each other.
>
>Look what we have done!  Look what, in four years, we have
>accomplished!  How many of us have emerged from lifetimes in the dark
>to share our words and stories for the first time with kindred
>souls?  How many of us never dared to pick up those beloved stories
>and fill in the many gaps left behind, until we met like-minded folks
>who dreamed the same?  How many of us have found a fellowship of
>creative growth that exists nowhere else in the world, save here,
>beneath Earendil's star?
>
>Feel good, dear ones.  Feel blessed.  Exult in all we have done and
>all we have won, and all we have been privileged to share. And for
>those whose stars are held just a little higher - let them light our
>way, to the next stories, to the next dreams we may follow.
>
>With love and gratitude ~
>
>Erin
>aka ErinRua
>
>
>--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "sulriel" <Sulriel@h...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Marta shouldn't have to apologize, it was my idea, I noticed that
>> *all* of ET's entries won an award and thought that was
>extraordinary
>> enough for a special mention.  Marta looked through the list and
>> found the others.  We discussed it very briefly and I asked her to
>> post it since I've been out of town.
>>
>> I've already caused one huge 'incident' by trying to help people
>feel
>> good and I'm sick at seeing this headed in the same direction.
>>
>> I've been a supporter all along of these feel-good awards and I
>love
>> the fact that there are so many different awards handed out to so
>> many different people.  There was discussion that so many awards
>> would dilute the overall meaning and I don't think that's happened
>at
>> all.  And at the same time, I think it's possible to give a nod of
>> respect to each other - especially to those four who pulled off
>what
>> I consider to be a pretty extraordinary feat - I believe that it's
>> possible to raise some up without pushing others down.  I'm
>genuinely
>> tickled for Barbara and the others who showed such consistency in
>> their work and wanted to honor them and share that fun kind of joy.
>>
>> I know that we're all fragile, all artists are to a point, but I
>also
>> believe that we should be able to be glad for other's success as
>> well, especially in this kind of awards system.
>>
>> Sulriel
>>
>>
>> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, MarigoldCotton@a... wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Marta,
>> >
>> > I am sure that you didn't mean anything purposely, no worries.
>It's
>> just that comments like this can make people feel excluded. Even
>> ErinRua, a well-known, respected, and established author said that
>> she felt left out for a moment.
>> >
>> > A newer, less well known author that took a chance and put their
>> work out to be judged might have felt very badly and not come
>forward
>> to say so. I just felt that I should say something on their behalf.
>I
>> wanted to let them know that they and their work are just as valued
>> and appreciated as the work of more well-known and/or prolific
>> authors.
>> >
>> > Hugs,
>> >
>> > Marigold
>> >
>> >
>> > >Rabidsamfan and Marigold,
>> > >
>> > >You guys are absolutely right. When I decided to post this I
>> didn't
>> > >think about wounding egos, but now that I consider it I
>definitely
>> see
>> > >your point.
>> > >
>> > >I'm actually a bit shame-faced that I didn't view things from
>this
>> > >perspective from the beginning. While it is nice to see people
>who
>> are
>> > >especially praise-worthy in one way or another, it's nearly
>> impossible
>> > >not to miss someone, or to make people feel bad for not
>> accomplishing
>> > >as much as someone else. I'm sorry if my hastiness hurt
>someone's
>> > >feelings, and won't single people out in the future.
>> > >
>> > >Marta
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Marigold's Red Book
>> > http://marigold.tolkienshire.com
>> >
>> > Marigold's Recommendations Page
>> > http://www.geocities.com/marigoldsrecommendations/
>> >
>> > Marigold's Live Journal
>> > http://www.livejournal.com/users/marigoldg/
>> >
>> > Tales of The Red Book
>> > http://www.livejournal.com/users/talesofredbook/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in
>> the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty
>> of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land,
>and
>> hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought
>> pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing
>> thing: there was light and high beauty forever beyond its reach.
>> > >
>> > >Sam, in Mordor, RoTK
>> >
>>
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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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Marigold's Red Book
http://marigold.tolkienshire.com

Marigold's Recommendations Page
http://www.geocities.com/marigoldsrecommendations/

Marigold's Live Journal
http://www.livejournal.com/users/marigoldg/

Tales of The Red Book
http://www.livejournal.com/users/talesofredbook/




There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty forever beyond its reach.

>
>Sam, in Mordor, RoTK

Hi Erin,

>
> Stop apologising, everyone. 

Darn Southern upbringing. ;-) I'm from the Carolinas... we apologise
for everything. But I don't feel guilty or anything, so don't worry
about that.

> Nothing was done out of maliciousness,
> and every word was meant in the very kindest of intent.  It was the
> equivalent of saying, "Wow, look what movie got all those Oscars!" -
> which does not belittle anyone else who got other honors in other
> things.
>

I don't think anyone's doubting the motives. I'm certainly not hearing
that. More the wisdom of that announcement. I guess I can see how it
could be interpreted either way, either as an "attaboy" to a certain
group of people or an oversight to others. As I'm probably the most
visible admin at this point, and as I've made several official emails
and posts lately, I probably should have seen that it would be taken as
more than just an interesting fact. It was in a sense an official
recognising of a certain group.

Ah, well. It's done, and I think dwelling on it too much longer will
only be counterproductive. I'm going to answer the emails that have
already been made, but can't promise I'll say much more on this
subject.

Marta

Hey Dreamflower,

On 24 Oct 2005, at 23:12, <aelfwina@cableone.net> wrote:

> Hear, hear! My dear, you are so right--for me my greatest thrill this
> year
> was seeing the honors my nominees got!  I had heaps of fun, read a
> number of
> stories I would never have seen without the MEFAs, even stories
> without any
> hobbits, if you can believe it, LOL!

*snork* Never! For my part I enjoyed lots of stories that didn't
involve Dunedain. An embarrassing number, if the sheer number of votes
I cast is any indication. And I discovered about three new authors I
want to watch, which is always the best thing about these awards for
me.

> It is a wonderful way to give "attaboys" to others, and by the way,
> garner a
> few here and there ourselves. I loved and appreciated every single
> review I
> got.  I freely admit I am a glutton for reviews, and cannot get
> enough of
> them--but I also love to give them as well.

You and me both. I reread mine today to try to build up to answering
some of them.

> I have loved taking part in the MEFAs, and hope that I can do even
> more next
> year.

It's comments like those that I never, never forget. *evil grin*

Marta

Here Here Erin, well said indeed. I have to tell you that winning is fun,
but the day I found out I had been nominated, that was the most incredible
thing. That one person, (a very lovely friend, btw, Elliska, word sweet
Feacabrona), thought enough of my writing to suggest it was, such an incredible
feeling. The reviews I received from people I know, everyone one of them made me
cry like a complete idiot, the whole thing was beyond words. I've already
stated how wonderful the MEFA admin. made it for us writers. And then
winning, well, its another day of yeeehawwws to say the least, but it certainly did
not dim one iota, the wonderfulness of just being involved and recognized. I
have been on cloud nine for months. Of course, that all came to an end
today with Marta's little story of how her days are spent and I forgot my name.
I think I had some sort of mini stroke just pondering the idea of trying to
do anything more sophisticated with the computer then to make words and look
at the occasional naked elf. But, like I said, beautifully articulated, Erin.
And Cheers again MEFA.

Ghetto


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