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----- Original Message -----
From: "sulriel" <Sulriel@htcomp.net>
To: <MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:45 AM
Subject: [MEFAwards] limiting nominations


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> - someone mentioned excluding drabbles and poetry? ... I don't
> think that was the comment. I think it was meant to exclude them
> from the count so there would be no limit on those entries, but I
> don't agree with that. I think all entries should be counted.
> People will nominate what they read and I'm fine with that.

I did not mention *excluding* drabbles and poetry. Someone else
misunderstood what I had written and thought I did.

Marta had said she thought limiting nominations would count against drabbles
(and I thought of poetry myself) I am not sure that would be the case, but
what I said was to give *extra* nominations for drabbles/poetry--in other
words, if the limit was 10 stories, the nominator could nominate up to 9
stories, and then have up to six extra nominations for drabbles/poetry for a
total of 15. Personally, I am not sure that it would be necessary, but that
would just be one way to address the problem should it exist.

Dreamflower
(Barbara)

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> > - someone mentioned excluding drabbles and poetry? ... I don't
> > think that was the comment. .
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> I did not mention *excluding* drabbles and poetry. Someone else
> misunderstood what I had written and thought I did.
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> <snip>...the nominator could nominate up to 9
> stories, and then have up to six extra
> nominations for drabbles/poetry for a
> total of 15...<snip>
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> I know you listed the drabble thing as EXTRA to
> the stories, but I that this division of WHAT you
> could nominate, would annoy people. Not everyone
> reads drabbles and poems and not everyone reads
> long stories. I think it would only serve to
> aggrevate people and has the potential to create
> a reputation of the MEFAs being cliquey and
> exclusionary etc. Not something we want!
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> If we cap the nominations, I think that should be
> it. It's just a number and people can use it how
> the wish. If they want to nominate only poems
> and drabbles, so be it. If they want to nominate
> only novella length things about dwarves - let
> them! :-P

----- Original Message -----
From: "sulriel" <Sulriel@htcomp.net>
To: <MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:00 AM
Subject: [MEFAwards] Re: limiting nominations


> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Naresha
> <north_shore_fruitcake@y...> wrote:
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>> <snip>...the nominator could nominate up to 9
>> stories, and then have up to six extra
>> nominations for drabbles/poetry for a
>> total of 15...<snip>
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>> I know you listed the drabble thing as EXTRA to
>> the stories, but I that this division of WHAT you
>> could nominate, would annoy people. Not everyone
>> reads drabbles and poems and not everyone reads
>> long stories. I think it would only serve to
>> aggrevate people and has the potential to create
>> a reputation of the MEFAs being cliquey and
>> exclusionary etc. Not something we want!
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>> If we cap the nominations, I think that should be
>> it. It's just a number and people can use it how
>> the wish. If they want to nominate only poems
>> and drabbles, so be it. If they want to nominate
>> only novella length things about dwarves - let
>> them! :-P
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> agree with this. I think a single limit should be enforced for all
> nominations.

Personally, I don't have a problem with a single limit, and think it would
be easier. I only suggested it as a way to address someone else's concern.
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> > I did not mention *excluding* drabbles and
> > poetry. Someone else misunderstood what I
> > had written and thought I did.
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> thank you for clarifying. I felt sure it had >

> agree with this. I think a single limit
> should be enforced for all nominations.

On 4 Nov 2005, at 08:57, Naresha wrote:

> >  agree with this.  I think a single limit
> > should be enforced for all nominations.
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> Thanks Sulriel!  And the thing is - I don't think
> it's fair to make drabbles etc an "extra" because
> it potentially means that it could be interpreted
> as, that in order to nominate drabbles, you also
> have to nominate stories.  And not everyone wants
> to nominate stories!  Please no one think that
> this is what I genuinely feel has been already
> stated.  I just want to make the point that IF
> this is something we go with - drabbles being
> extra nominations to stories - we would have to
> be VERY careful in our wording of it.
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Good point! I hadn't thought of this, and I can see how a single limit
would be simpler to explain and less prone to confusion. That in itself
isn't an automatic argument that it's *better*, but it's certainly a
strong mark in its favor.

We'll see how the poll goes.

Cheers,
Marta

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