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Hey guys,
I think we're reaching agreement on a lot of the categories issues.
There's still some stuff to nail down, and I don't want to just forget
about the remaining things we're still discussing. But I think things
are slowing down enough that we can start looking at the next topic,
which I think (hope!) won't be as controversial.
The way it works now, our website is run from a computer at
Ainaechoiriel's house.
The obvious advantage of this set-up is that it's free to the MEFAs; no
one has to pay for the website, and I think everyone agrees that it's
much easier to do things through the website instead of through the
Yahoo group like we did in 2004.
The main disadvantage is down time. If anything should happen to
Ainae's computer or the internet connection, the pages that begin with
http://gabrielle.sytes.net/ won't load until someone can fix the
problem. Since the site is run off of a computer at Ainae's house, the
site may be down until someone can get there and fix the problem. (Some
problems can be fixed remotely, by Ainae at work, but not always - if,
for example, a cat accidentally turns the computer off, someone has to
physically press a button.)
The problem is that so much of what happens with our website is
time-sensitive. With people in different time-zones and with different
schedules, if the site is down for even a few hours near the end of
voting season or nominating season, we could have a real problem on our
hands. Sure, we can extend those seasons by a day or two like we did
this year (2005), but I think the website being down still causes a lot
of frustration.
The only solution that I can think of is to go with a web hosting
company. There would be several advantages:
1. It would probably give us more bandwidth. This means that pages
would load quicker.
2. If the site does go down, the problem could be resolved quicker. The
machine would be at a location where there are people to handle this
sort of thing, so we wouldn't have to wait for someone to get there
like we do now.
3. We could get a domain name that's more obvious. Something like
http://www.mefawards.com/ . I think this would make things less
confusing for people new to the awards.
4. Right now, Anthony has to email updates to Ainae who installs them.
With a professional site Anthony could install them himself.
The main disadvantage is that someone has to actually *pay* for it.
When Anthony, Sulriel, and I discussed the possibility of doing this,
we found several packages that provided what we needed for around
$10/mo. The exact cost varied from company to company, of course, but I
think we could do this for about $150/year. We could raise that if ten
people would each donate $15 to cover the cost of a year's hosting. I
don't think that's too much of a burden for most people, when you
consider how much we use the website over the course of the year.
So what do you guys think? Is this something people are interested in
doing? Are people willing to chip in to help cover the costs? I think
this would really help the MEFAs, but I can't cover the whole cost
myself. If there are enough people interested in making this happen we
can start discussing specifics.
Oh, and I want to make one thing perfectly clear: If for whatever
reason you really can't afford to help out financially, that's okay. I
don't know everyone's financial situation (and don't need to), and I
want everyone to feel free to participate in whatever way they can.
Giving the MEFAs your time (as a volunteer or just by reading stories)
is contributing, too.
Marta
I think we're reaching agreement on a lot of the categories issues.
There's still some stuff to nail down, and I don't want to just forget
about the remaining things we're still discussing. But I think things
are slowing down enough that we can start looking at the next topic,
which I think (hope!) won't be as controversial.
The way it works now, our website is run from a computer at
Ainaechoiriel's house.
The obvious advantage of this set-up is that it's free to the MEFAs; no
one has to pay for the website, and I think everyone agrees that it's
much easier to do things through the website instead of through the
Yahoo group like we did in 2004.
The main disadvantage is down time. If anything should happen to
Ainae's computer or the internet connection, the pages that begin with
http://gabrielle.sytes.net/ won't load until someone can fix the
problem. Since the site is run off of a computer at Ainae's house, the
site may be down until someone can get there and fix the problem. (Some
problems can be fixed remotely, by Ainae at work, but not always - if,
for example, a cat accidentally turns the computer off, someone has to
physically press a button.)
The problem is that so much of what happens with our website is
time-sensitive. With people in different time-zones and with different
schedules, if the site is down for even a few hours near the end of
voting season or nominating season, we could have a real problem on our
hands. Sure, we can extend those seasons by a day or two like we did
this year (2005), but I think the website being down still causes a lot
of frustration.
The only solution that I can think of is to go with a web hosting
company. There would be several advantages:
1. It would probably give us more bandwidth. This means that pages
would load quicker.
2. If the site does go down, the problem could be resolved quicker. The
machine would be at a location where there are people to handle this
sort of thing, so we wouldn't have to wait for someone to get there
like we do now.
3. We could get a domain name that's more obvious. Something like
http://www.mefawards.com/ . I think this would make things less
confusing for people new to the awards.
4. Right now, Anthony has to email updates to Ainae who installs them.
With a professional site Anthony could install them himself.
The main disadvantage is that someone has to actually *pay* for it.
When Anthony, Sulriel, and I discussed the possibility of doing this,
we found several packages that provided what we needed for around
$10/mo. The exact cost varied from company to company, of course, but I
think we could do this for about $150/year. We could raise that if ten
people would each donate $15 to cover the cost of a year's hosting. I
don't think that's too much of a burden for most people, when you
consider how much we use the website over the course of the year.
So what do you guys think? Is this something people are interested in
doing? Are people willing to chip in to help cover the costs? I think
this would really help the MEFAs, but I can't cover the whole cost
myself. If there are enough people interested in making this happen we
can start discussing specifics.
Oh, and I want to make one thing perfectly clear: If for whatever
reason you really can't afford to help out financially, that's okay. I
don't know everyone's financial situation (and don't need to), and I
want everyone to feel free to participate in whatever way they can.
Giving the MEFAs your time (as a volunteer or just by reading stories)
is contributing, too.
Marta
Hey guys,
After re-reading this post it occurred to me that maybe I wasn't clear
on one crucial thing: I talked to Ainae about this several weeks ago,
and she said she doesn't have a problem with us moving the website to
a professional server, if we decide we want to do that.
Marta
After re-reading this post it occurred to me that maybe I wasn't clear
on one crucial thing: I talked to Ainae about this several weeks ago,
and she said she doesn't have a problem with us moving the website to
a professional server, if we decide we want to do that.
Marta
--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Marta Layton <melayton@g...> wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I think we're reaching agreement on a lot of the categories issues.
> There's still some stuff to nail down, and I don't want to just forget
> about the remaining things we're still discussing. But I think things
> are slowing down enough that we can start looking at the next topic,
> which I think (hope!) won't be as controversial.
>
> The way it works now, our website is run from a computer at
> Ainaechoiriel's house.
>
> The obvious advantage of this set-up is that it's free to the MEFAs; no
> one has to pay for the website, and I think everyone agrees that it's
> much easier to do things through the website instead of through the
> Yahoo group like we did in 2004.
>
> The main disadvantage is down time. If anything should happen to
> Ainae's computer or the internet connection, the pages that begin with
> http://gabrielle.sytes.net/ won't load until someone can fix the
> problem. Since the site is run off of a computer at Ainae's house, the
> site may be down until someone can get there and fix the problem. (Some
> problems can be fixed remotely, by Ainae at work, but not always - if,
> for example, a cat accidentally turns the computer off, someone has to
> physically press a button.)
>
> The problem is that so much of what happens with our website is
> time-sensitive. With people in different time-zones and with different
> schedules, if the site is down for even a few hours near the end of
> voting season or nominating season, we could have a real problem on our
> hands. Sure, we can extend those seasons by a day or two like we did
> this year (2005), but I think the website being down still causes a lot
> of frustration.
>
> The only solution that I can think of is to go with a web hosting
> company. There would be several advantages:
>
> 1. It would probably give us more bandwidth. This means that pages
> would load quicker.
>
> 2. If the site does go down, the problem could be resolved quicker. The
> machine would be at a location where there are people to handle this
> sort of thing, so we wouldn't have to wait for someone to get there
> like we do now.
>
> 3. We could get a domain name that's more obvious. Something like
> http://www.mefawards.com/ . I think this would make things less
> confusing for people new to the awards.
>
> 4. Right now, Anthony has to email updates to Ainae who installs them.
> With a professional site Anthony could install them himself.
>
> The main disadvantage is that someone has to actually *pay* for it.
> When Anthony, Sulriel, and I discussed the possibility of doing this,
> we found several packages that provided what we needed for around
> $10/mo. The exact cost varied from company to company, of course, but I
> think we could do this for about $150/year. We could raise that if ten
> people would each donate $15 to cover the cost of a year's hosting. I
> don't think that's too much of a burden for most people, when you
> consider how much we use the website over the course of the year.
>
> So what do you guys think? Is this something people are interested in
> doing? Are people willing to chip in to help cover the costs? I think
> this would really help the MEFAs, but I can't cover the whole cost
> myself. If there are enough people interested in making this happen we
> can start discussing specifics.
>
> Oh, and I want to make one thing perfectly clear: If for whatever
> reason you really can't afford to help out financially, that's okay. I
> don't know everyone's financial situation (and don't need to), and I
> want everyone to feel free to participate in whatever way they can.
> Giving the MEFAs your time (as a volunteer or just by reading stories)
> is contributing, too.
>
> Marta
>
I'd be willing to contribute to this.
Kathy (Inkling)
Kathy (Inkling)
--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Marta" <melayton@g...> wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> After re-reading this post it occurred to me that maybe I wasn't
clear
> on one crucial thing: I talked to Ainae about this several weeks
ago,
> and she said she doesn't have a problem with us moving the website
to
> a professional server, if we decide we want to do that.
>
> Marta
>
> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Marta Layton <melayton@g...>
wrote:
> >
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > I think we're reaching agreement on a lot of the categories
issues.
> > There's still some stuff to nail down, and I don't want to just
forget
> > about the remaining things we're still discussing. But I think
things
> > are slowing down enough that we can start looking at the next
topic,
> > which I think (hope!) won't be as controversial.
> >
> > The way it works now, our website is run from a computer at
> > Ainaechoiriel's house.
> >
> > The obvious advantage of this set-up is that it's free to the
MEFAs; no
> > one has to pay for the website, and I think everyone agrees that
it's
> > much easier to do things through the website instead of through
the
> > Yahoo group like we did in 2004.
> >
> > The main disadvantage is down time. If anything should happen to
> > Ainae's computer or the internet connection, the pages that begin
with
> > http://gabrielle.sytes.net/ won't load until someone can fix the
> > problem. Since the site is run off of a computer at Ainae's
house, the
> > site may be down until someone can get there and fix the problem.
(Some
> > problems can be fixed remotely, by Ainae at work, but not always -
if,
> > for example, a cat accidentally turns the computer off, someone
has to
> > physically press a button.)
> >
> > The problem is that so much of what happens with our website is
> > time-sensitive. With people in different time-zones and with
different
> > schedules, if the site is down for even a few hours near the end
of
> > voting season or nominating season, we could have a real problem
on our
> > hands. Sure, we can extend those seasons by a day or two like we
did
> > this year (2005), but I think the website being down still causes
a lot
> > of frustration.
> >
> > The only solution that I can think of is to go with a web hosting
> > company. There would be several advantages:
> >
> > 1. It would probably give us more bandwidth. This means that
pages
> > would load quicker.
> >
> > 2. If the site does go down, the problem could be resolved
quicker. The
> > machine would be at a location where there are people to handle
this
> > sort of thing, so we wouldn't have to wait for someone to get
there
> > like we do now.
> >
> > 3. We could get a domain name that's more obvious. Something like
> > http://www.mefawards.com/ . I think this would make things less
> > confusing for people new to the awards.
> >
> > 4. Right now, Anthony has to email updates to Ainae who installs
them.
> > With a professional site Anthony could install them himself.
> >
> > The main disadvantage is that someone has to actually *pay* for
it.
> > When Anthony, Sulriel, and I discussed the possibility of doing
this,
> > we found several packages that provided what we needed for around
> > $10/mo. The exact cost varied from company to company, of course,
but I
> > think we could do this for about $150/year. We could raise that
if ten
> > people would each donate $15 to cover the cost of a year's
hosting. I
> > don't think that's too much of a burden for most people, when you
> > consider how much we use the website over the course of the year.
> >
> > So what do you guys think? Is this something people are
interested in
> > doing? Are people willing to chip in to help cover the costs? I
think
> > this would really help the MEFAs, but I can't cover the whole
cost
> > myself. If there are enough people interested in making this
happen we
> > can start discussing specifics.
> >
> > Oh, and I want to make one thing perfectly clear: If for whatever
> > reason you really can't afford to help out financially, that's
okay. I
> > don't know everyone's financial situation (and don't need to),
and I
> > want everyone to feel free to participate in whatever way they
can.
> > Giving the MEFAs your time (as a volunteer or just by reading
stories)
> > is contributing, too.
> >
> > Marta
> >
>
Msg# 6474
Re: web hosting Posted by aelfwina@cableone.net December 11, 2005 - 12:56:29 Topic ID# 6466I wouldn't mind making a small contribution. I've also an idea of how the
MEFAs could raise funds to maintain things in the future. How about a Cafe
Press shop? I know I'd definitely spring for a MEFA T-shirt.
Dreamflower
MEFAs could raise funds to maintain things in the future. How about a Cafe
Press shop? I know I'd definitely spring for a MEFA T-shirt.
Dreamflower
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy" <inkling-tcbs@sbcglobal.net>
To: <MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 1:00 AM
Subject: [MEFAwards] Re: web hosting
> I'd be willing to contribute to this.
>
> Kathy (Inkling)
>
> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Marta" <melayton@g...> wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> After re-reading this post it occurred to me that maybe I wasn't
> clear
>> on one crucial thing: I talked to Ainae about this several weeks
> ago,
>> and she said she doesn't have a problem with us moving the website
> to
>> a professional server, if we decide we want to do that.
>>
>> Marta
>>
>> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Marta Layton <melayton@g...>
> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey guys,
>> >
>> > I think we're reaching agreement on a lot of the categories
> issues.
>> > There's still some stuff to nail down, and I don't want to just
> forget
>> > about the remaining things we're still discussing. But I think
> things
>> > are slowing down enough that we can start looking at the next
> topic,
>> > which I think (hope!) won't be as controversial.
>> >
>> > The way it works now, our website is run from a computer at
>> > Ainaechoiriel's house.
>> >
>> > The obvious advantage of this set-up is that it's free to the
> MEFAs; no
>> > one has to pay for the website, and I think everyone agrees that
> it's
>> > much easier to do things through the website instead of through
> the
>> > Yahoo group like we did in 2004.
>> >
>> > The main disadvantage is down time. If anything should happen to
>> > Ainae's computer or the internet connection, the pages that begin
> with
>> > http://gabrielle.sytes.net/ won't load until someone can fix the
>> > problem. Since the site is run off of a computer at Ainae's
> house, the
>> > site may be down until someone can get there and fix the problem.
> (Some
>> > problems can be fixed remotely, by Ainae at work, but not always -
> if,
>> > for example, a cat accidentally turns the computer off, someone
> has to
>> > physically press a button.)
>> >
>> > The problem is that so much of what happens with our website is
>> > time-sensitive. With people in different time-zones and with
> different
>> > schedules, if the site is down for even a few hours near the end
> of
>> > voting season or nominating season, we could have a real problem
> on our
>> > hands. Sure, we can extend those seasons by a day or two like we
> did
>> > this year (2005), but I think the website being down still causes
> a lot
>> > of frustration.
>> >
>> > The only solution that I can think of is to go with a web hosting
>> > company. There would be several advantages:
>> >
>> > 1. It would probably give us more bandwidth. This means that
> pages
>> > would load quicker.
>> >
>> > 2. If the site does go down, the problem could be resolved
> quicker. The
>> > machine would be at a location where there are people to handle
> this
>> > sort of thing, so we wouldn't have to wait for someone to get
> there
>> > like we do now.
>> >
>> > 3. We could get a domain name that's more obvious. Something like
>> > http://www.mefawards.com/ . I think this would make things less
>> > confusing for people new to the awards.
>> >
>> > 4. Right now, Anthony has to email updates to Ainae who installs
> them.
>> > With a professional site Anthony could install them himself.
>> >
>> > The main disadvantage is that someone has to actually *pay* for
> it.
>> > When Anthony, Sulriel, and I discussed the possibility of doing
> this,
>> > we found several packages that provided what we needed for around
>> > $10/mo. The exact cost varied from company to company, of course,
> but I
>> > think we could do this for about $150/year. We could raise that
> if ten
>> > people would each donate $15 to cover the cost of a year's
> hosting. I
>> > don't think that's too much of a burden for most people, when you
>> > consider how much we use the website over the course of the year.
>> >
>> > So what do you guys think? Is this something people are
> interested in
>> > doing? Are people willing to chip in to help cover the costs? I
> think
>> > this would really help the MEFAs, but I can't cover the whole
> cost
>> > myself. If there are enough people interested in making this
> happen we
>> > can start discussing specifics.
>> >
>> > Oh, and I want to make one thing perfectly clear: If for whatever
>> > reason you really can't afford to help out financially, that's
> okay. I
>> > don't know everyone's financial situation (and don't need to),
> and I
>> > want everyone to feel free to participate in whatever way they
> can.
>> > Giving the MEFAs your time (as a volunteer or just by reading
> stories)
>> > is contributing, too.
>> >
>> > Marta
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Message: 6Thanks.
> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:56:26 -0600
> From: <aelfwina@cableone.net>
> Subject: Re: Re: web hosting
>
> I wouldn't mind making a small contribution.
> I've also an idea of how theI'm not at all against this, but I'm also not going to be able to
> MEFAs could raise funds to maintain things in the future. How about a
> Cafe
> Press shop? I know I'd definitely spring for a MEFA T-shirt.
design any of the stuff myself. I just don't have the artistic talent.
(Note that I didn't design a single award banner this year.) If other
people are willing to design some stuff, I have no problem selling. In
fact, I think it's a great idea and would probably buy a shirt myself.
Marta
--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Marta Layton <melayton@g...> wrote:
categorisering no more! ;)
I think, if you want this, that there is an artist around who can
design a lovely MEFA logo. You can either make t-shirts with short &
funny sentences and such ;)
Rhapsody
>Well how about for the MEFA staff: I survived MEFA 2004:
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:56:26 -0600
> > From: <aelfwina@c...>
> > Subject: Re: Re: web hosting
> >
> > I wouldn't mind making a small contribution.
>
> Thanks.
>
> > I've also an idea of how the
> > MEFAs could raise funds to maintain things in the future. How
> > about a Cafe Press shop? I know I'd definitely spring for a MEFA
> > T-shirt.
>
> I'm not at all against this, but I'm also not going to be able to
> design any of the stuff myself. I just don't have the artistic
> talent.
> (Note that I didn't design a single award banner this year.) If
> other people are willing to design some stuff, I have no problem
> selling. In fact, I think it's a great idea and would probably buy a
> shirt myself.
categorisering no more! ;)
I think, if you want this, that there is an artist around who can
design a lovely MEFA logo. You can either make t-shirts with short &
funny sentences and such ;)
Rhapsody
> Message: 1How does CafePress work? Can you just provide some text and a
> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:34:44 -0000
> From: "rhapsody_the_bard" <rhapsody74@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: web hosting
>
> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Marta Layton <melayton@g...> wrote:
>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:56:26 -0600
>>> From: <aelfwina@c...>
>>> Subject: Re: Re: web hosting
>>>
>>> I wouldn't mind making a small contribution.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>> I've also an idea of how the
>>> MEFAs could raise funds to maintain things in the future. How
>>> about a Cafe Press shop? I know I'd definitely spring for a MEFA
>>> T-shirt.
>>
>> I'm not at all against this, but I'm also not going to be able to
>> design any of the stuff myself. I just don't have the artistic
>> talent.
>> (Note that I didn't design a single award banner this year.) If
>> other people are willing to design some stuff, I have no problem
>> selling. In fact, I think it's a great idea and would probably buy a
>> shirt myself.
>
> Well how about for the MEFA staff: I survived MEFA 2004:
> categorisering no more! ;)
>
>
description, or do you have to make a graphic of what the front and
back should look like? If it's the latter, then people who have an idea
will still have to come up with the graphic file with the layout. Which
I don't think would be that hard, for you people who are more
artistically inclined.
> I think, if you want this, that there is an artist around who canI'd love to have a logo made. I think it would be nice to have a logo
> design a lovely MEFA logo. You can either make t-shirts with short &
> funny sentences and such ;)
>
to display at other places besides on t-shirts, like on the website.
As for funny sentences, I think this is a great idea. I'd actually say
that t-shirts should be primarily text, unless the artwork's original.
I'm concerned about copyright infringements, and I don't want to get in
trouble with New Line or anyone else for making a profit off their
work.
Marta
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