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Hey all,
I apologize for the recent problems with the site. They are all my
fault, and mostly due to not testing things on my own computer well
enough before putting them up to the mefawards site.
I have tested things this time as well as I can think to test them.
I've edited several stories (on my own site) and none have disappeared,
and none of the data has been corrupted.
As far as the 'N/A' problems with minor characters go (e.g., Boromir),
the data appears to have been saved correctly, but not read correctly
out of the database, so the minor characters should magically appear
again. Authors should be asked to review the lists of minor characters
(and all the other story data) just to be sure it's all there. If the
minor characters weren't re-added to the form, they would have been
overwritten with N/A, so that's one thing to check for sure.
One story I looked at has more than 4 major characters. The code isn't
supposed to allow that, and I don't know why it did, but I don't want
to change it at this stage, for fear of causing more problems. I don't
think it is a major issue, in any case.
I looked, and I do not have a backup of story 470. It wasn't there on
May 7, and was gone by May 13, when I downloaded another copy of the
database.
There may be other stories that have disappeared. I have no way of
finding out what they are, though, besides the summaries I gave you
yesterday. If you want the full summaries, let me know.
Because of the problems, and losing a big chunk of a weekend, I would
suggest adding a week to nomination season, but will let you all decide
how to deal with that.
Also, at least until nomination season is over (and especially until
I'm sure that the software isn't losing any more data), I'm going to
make backups more often (6 times a day). We'll go back to once a day
eventually, especially once reviews start coming in in bulk.
Anthony
I apologize for the recent problems with the site. They are all my
fault, and mostly due to not testing things on my own computer well
enough before putting them up to the mefawards site.
I have tested things this time as well as I can think to test them.
I've edited several stories (on my own site) and none have disappeared,
and none of the data has been corrupted.
As far as the 'N/A' problems with minor characters go (e.g., Boromir),
the data appears to have been saved correctly, but not read correctly
out of the database, so the minor characters should magically appear
again. Authors should be asked to review the lists of minor characters
(and all the other story data) just to be sure it's all there. If the
minor characters weren't re-added to the form, they would have been
overwritten with N/A, so that's one thing to check for sure.
One story I looked at has more than 4 major characters. The code isn't
supposed to allow that, and I don't know why it did, but I don't want
to change it at this stage, for fear of causing more problems. I don't
think it is a major issue, in any case.
I looked, and I do not have a backup of story 470. It wasn't there on
May 7, and was gone by May 13, when I downloaded another copy of the
database.
There may be other stories that have disappeared. I have no way of
finding out what they are, though, besides the summaries I gave you
yesterday. If you want the full summaries, let me know.
Because of the problems, and losing a big chunk of a weekend, I would
suggest adding a week to nomination season, but will let you all decide
how to deal with that.
Also, at least until nomination season is over (and especially until
I'm sure that the software isn't losing any more data), I'm going to
make backups more often (6 times a day). We'll go back to once a day
eventually, especially once reviews start coming in in bulk.
Anthony
Msg# 7010
Re: Recent site issues Posted by MarigoldCotton@aol.com May 15, 2006 - 4:55:10 Topic ID# 7009I do hope that we can add a week, as Anthony suggested. (Or even two, lol!) I had scheduled this past weekend to do all of my MEFA stuff, and don't know now when I will be able to find a goodly chunk of time again. I must admit that I am finding the new system this year a bit hard to get used to anyway, and I think other folks might be as well.
Marigold
Marigold's Red Book
http://marigold.tolkienshire.com
Marigold's Recommendations Page
http://www.geocities.com/marigoldsrecommendations/
Marigold's Live Journal
http://www.livejournal.com/users/marigoldg/
Tales of The Red Book
http://www.livejournal.com/users/talesofredbook/
There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty forever beyond its reach.
From: Anthony Holder <aaholder@swbell.net>
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Cc: MEFAStaff@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 14 May 2006 23:32:10 -0500
Subject: [MEFAwards] Recent site issues
I looked, and I do not have a backup of story 470. It wasn't there on
May 7, and was gone by May 13, when I downloaded another copy of the
database.
There may be other stories that have disappeared. I have no way of
finding out what they are, though, besides the summaries I gave you
yesterday. If you want the full summaries, let me know.
Because of the problems, and losing a big chunk of a weekend, I would
suggest adding a week to nomination season, but will let you all decide
how to deal with that.
Yahoo! Groups Links
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Marigold
Marigold's Red Book
http://marigold.tolkienshire.com
Marigold's Recommendations Page
http://www.geocities.com/marigoldsrecommendations/
Marigold's Live Journal
http://www.livejournal.com/users/marigoldg/
Tales of The Red Book
http://www.livejournal.com/users/talesofredbook/
There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty forever beyond its reach.
>-----Original Message-----
>Sam, in Mordor, RoTK
From: Anthony Holder <aaholder@swbell.net>
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Cc: MEFAStaff@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 14 May 2006 23:32:10 -0500
Subject: [MEFAwards] Recent site issues
I looked, and I do not have a backup of story 470. It wasn't there on
May 7, and was gone by May 13, when I downloaded another copy of the
database.
There may be other stories that have disappeared. I have no way of
finding out what they are, though, besides the summaries I gave you
yesterday. If you want the full summaries, let me know.
Because of the problems, and losing a big chunk of a weekend, I would
suggest adding a week to nomination season, but will let you all decide
how to deal with that.
Yahoo! Groups Links
________________________________________________________________________
Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
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Msg# 7014
Re: [MEFAStaff] Recent site issues Posted by Marta Layton May 15, 2006 - 13:01:14 Topic ID# 7009Hi Anthony,
characters by hand instead to just relying on the website to catch that.
I'll continue to do that.
In case anyone is wondering, from an administrative POV it's good to keep
the list of characters fairly short because it makes it easier to come up
with subcategories when we reach that stage of the contest. I assume it also
makes the story summaries take up less room when you're looking at all the
nominations.
week off reading season, move the categorization season back a week, and
take a week off reading season.
Marta
> One story I looked at has more than 4 major characters. The code isn'tThat sounds very reasonable. As a liaison I usually count the number of
> supposed to allow that, and I don't know why it did, but I don't want
> to change it at this stage, for fear of causing more problems. I don't
> think it is a major issue, in any case.
>
characters by hand instead to just relying on the website to catch that.
I'll continue to do that.
In case anyone is wondering, from an administrative POV it's good to keep
the list of characters fairly short because it makes it easier to come up
with subcategories when we reach that stage of the contest. I assume it also
makes the story summaries take up less room when you're looking at all the
nominations.
> Because of the problems, and losing a big chunk of a weekend, I wouldI don't have any problem with that. If no one objects, we'll just take a
> suggest adding a week to nomination season, but will let you all decide
> how to deal with that.
>
week off reading season, move the categorization season back a week, and
take a week off reading season.
Marta
On 15/5/06 5:54 am, "MarigoldCotton@aol.com" <MarigoldCotton@aol.com> wrote:
they need. If an extra week will help, I have no objection.
Two weeks would actually work better from a scheduling point of view. We
could adjust the schedule so seasons still end at the beginning or middle of
a month. Does anyone have an objection to extending nomination season until
June 15, and moving the remaining seasons back by a similar period?
Marta
> I do hope that we can add a week, as Anthony suggested. (Or even two, lol!) IThere have been a lot of changes, and I'd rather give people as much time as
> had scheduled this past weekend to do all of my MEFA stuff, and don't know now
> when I will be able to find a goodly chunk of time again. I must admit that I
> am finding the new system this year a bit hard to get used to anyway, and I
> think other folks might be as well.
>
they need. If an extra week will help, I have no objection.
Two weeks would actually work better from a scheduling point of view. We
could adjust the schedule so seasons still end at the beginning or middle of
a month. Does anyone have an objection to extending nomination season until
June 15, and moving the remaining seasons back by a similar period?
Marta
--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Marta Layton <melayton@...> wrote:
(Or even two, lol!) I> > had scheduled this past weekend to do all
of my MEFA stuff, and don't know now> > when I will be able to find
a goodly chunk of time again. I must admit that I> > am finding the
new system this year a bit hard to get used to anyway, and I> >
think other folks might be as well.
objection.> > Two weeks would actually work better from a scheduling
point of view. We> could adjust the schedule so seasons still end at
the beginning or middle of> a month. Does anyone have an objection
to extending nomination season until> June 15, and moving the
remaining seasons back by a similar period?> > Marta
I agree that's probably a good idea. :)
Sulriel
>> On 15/5/06 5:54 am, "MarigoldCotton@..." <MarigoldCotton@...>wrote:> > > I do hope that we can add a week, as Anthony suggested.
(Or even two, lol!) I> > had scheduled this past weekend to do all
of my MEFA stuff, and don't know now> > when I will be able to find
a goodly chunk of time again. I must admit that I> > am finding the
new system this year a bit hard to get used to anyway, and I> >
think other folks might be as well.
> >much time as> they need. If an extra week will help, I have no
> > There have been a lot of changes, and I'd rather give people as
objection.> > Two weeks would actually work better from a scheduling
point of view. We> could adjust the schedule so seasons still end at
the beginning or middle of> a month. Does anyone have an objection
to extending nomination season until> June 15, and moving the
remaining seasons back by a similar period?> > Marta
I agree that's probably a good idea. :)
Sulriel
In a message dated 5/15/2006 5:35:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
melayton@gmail.com writes:
Does anyone have an objection to extending nomination season until
June 15, and moving the remaining seasons back by a similar period?
Marta
Not at all. Sounds like a good idea.
Isabeau
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melayton@gmail.com writes:
Does anyone have an objection to extending nomination season until
June 15, and moving the remaining seasons back by a similar period?
Marta
Not at all. Sounds like a good idea.
Isabeau
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Msg# 7021
Re: Recent site issues Posted by heartofoshun@aol.com May 15, 2006 - 17:24:32 Topic ID# 7009It be a relief...great idea.
Oshun
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Oshun
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On 15/5/06 6:13 pm, "ejackamack@aol.com" <ejackamack@aol.com> wrote:
seasons will be as follows:
May 1-June 15 - Nomination season
June 16-July 15 - Categorization season. All nominations must be finalized
by June 21.
July 15-August 31 - Reading season. Members can vote but votes aren't
visible.
September 1-November 20 - Voting season. Final votes are visible.
May 1-November 20 - Members may create and submit banners
November 20-November 24 - Members vote to select banner that will be used
for awards.
November 24 - Results are announced.
All days are based on GMT.
Marta
>I think a lot of people will find the extra time useful. Therefore the
> In a message dated 5/15/2006 5:35:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> melayton@gmail.com writes:
>
> Does anyone have an objection to extending nomination season until
> June 15, and moving the remaining seasons back by a similar period?
>
> Marta
>
>
>
> Not at all. Sounds like a good idea.
>
> Isabeau
>
seasons will be as follows:
May 1-June 15 - Nomination season
June 16-July 15 - Categorization season. All nominations must be finalized
by June 21.
July 15-August 31 - Reading season. Members can vote but votes aren't
visible.
September 1-November 20 - Voting season. Final votes are visible.
May 1-November 20 - Members may create and submit banners
November 20-November 24 - Members vote to select banner that will be used
for awards.
November 24 - Results are announced.
All days are based on GMT.
Marta
Msg# 7023
Re: Recent site issues Posted by aelfwina@cableone.net May 15, 2006 - 22:19:35 Topic ID# 7009----- Original Message -----
From: "Marta Layton" <melayton@gmail.com>
To: <MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] Recent site issues
> There have been a lot of changes, and I'd rather give people as much time
> as
> they need. If an extra week will help, I have no objection.
>
> Two weeks would actually work better from a scheduling point of view. We
> could adjust the schedule so seasons still end at the beginning or middle
> of
> a month. Does anyone have an objection to extending nomination season
> until
> June 15, and moving the remaining seasons back by a similar period?
That sounds perfect to me! Perhaps you should also do a poll at the LJ?
Dreamflower
>
> Marta
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Msg# 7024
Re: Recent site issues Posted by MarigoldCotton@aol.com May 16, 2006 - 0:32:55 Topic ID# 7009>Two weeks would actually work better from a scheduling point of view. Wecould adjust the schedule so seasons still end at the beginning or middle of
a month. Does anyone have an objection to extending nomination season until
June 15, and moving the remaining seasons back by a similar period?
That sounds great to me!
Marigold
Marigold's Red Book
http://marigold.tolkienshire.com
Marigold's Recommendations Page
http://www.geocities.com/marigoldsrecommendations/
Marigold's Live Journal
http://www.livejournal.com/users/marigoldg/
Tales of The Red Book
http://www.livejournal.com/users/talesofredbook/
There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty forever beyond its reach.
>-----Original Message-----
>Sam, in Mordor, RoTK
From: Marta Layton <melayton@gmail.com>
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:34:40 -0400
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] Recent site issues
On 15/5/06 5:54 am, "MarigoldCotton@aol.com" <MarigoldCotton@aol.com> wrote:
> I do hope that we can add a week, as Anthony suggested. (Or even two, lol!) I
> had scheduled this past weekend to do all of my MEFA stuff, and don't know now
> when I will be able to find a goodly chunk of time again. I must admit that I
> am finding the new system this year a bit hard to get used to anyway, and I
> think other folks might be as well.
>
There have been a lot of changes, and I'd rather give people as much time as
they need. If an extra week will help, I have no objection.
Two weeks would actually work better from a scheduling point of view. We
could adjust the schedule so seasons still end at the beginning or middle of
a month. Does anyone have an objection to extending nomination season until
June 15, and moving the remaining seasons back by a similar period?
Marta
Yahoo! Groups Links
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>> Does anyone have an objection to extending nomination seasonI can certainly post there, and will do so in just a minute. As for a poll,
>> until
>> June 15, and moving the remaining seasons back by a similar period?
>
> That sounds perfect to me! Perhaps you should also do a poll at the LJ?
> Dreamflower
>>
I'm not sure it's necessary because everyone seems to be in favor of the
extra time.
Marta
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