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Check Ballots for Main Category Genres: Poetry: General

Between Friends (396): agape4gondor
URL:
http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/chapter_view.cfm?stid=6728&SPOrdinal=1
General, Reason for Rating:
Romance Partners: N/A
Smeagol and Deagol have a moment.

Triolet: The Weaver's Song (553): annmarwalk
URL: http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=3696&cid=22989
General, Reason for Rating:
Romance Partners: n/a
Inspired by Boromir's fabulous cloak. A triolet is a poem or stanza of
eight lines with a rhyme scheme abaaabab, in which the fourth and
seventh lines are the same as the first, and the eighth line is the
same as the second. Written for the "Cold" challenge at LJ community
tolkien_weekly,

Burning Your Bridges (125): Branwyn
URL: http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=4652&cid=22369
General, Reason for Rating: N/A
Romance Partners: N/A
Soldiers destroy the last bridge at Osgiliath. [Note: though Boromir
was in charge of the defense of Osgiliath, Faramir would be the
logical person to oversee destruction of the bridge since he has been
fighting as a partisan and presumably has more experience with
demolition than Boromir has.]

Gold Rings and Sam (501): Branwyn
URL: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2919812/20/
General, Reason for Rating: N/A
Romance Partners: N/A
With abject apologies to Dr. Seuss and Tolkien.

A Collection of Sindarin Tanka (224): juno_magic
URL: http://www.tolkienfanfiction.com/Story_Read_Head.php?STid=451
Teen, Reason for Rating: I rate this series of tanka "teen" as it does
contain suggestive erotic scenes and illustrations, but no full
frontal nudity or anything explicit.
Romance Partners: N/A
A series of tanka (a short form of Japanese poetry similar to haiku)
written originally in Sindarin, with English translation,
illustrations and explanations.

Good Rest Ye Merry (798): Llinos
URL:
http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/chapter_view.cfm?stid=749&SPOrdinal=1
General, Reason for Rating:
Romance Partners: N/A
A Yuletide Carol. Not one the Fellowship might have sung, but just a
few warnings to them from anonymous well-wishers.

Hiraeth (803): Llinos
URL: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1157815/10/Lord_of_the_Rings_Poetry
General, Reason for Rating:
Romance Partners: N/A
"Go not to the elves for counsel, for they will say both no and yes."
Elves can be introspective and dreamy - but also indecisive. "Hiraeth"
is a Welsh word meaning "longing".

The hunt across Tirion (607): Tinni
URL: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1512143/1/
General, Reason for Rating: n/a
Romance Partners: N/A
A poem about a game Fingon and Turgon play when still in Tirion

Elrond's Song (409): White Gull
URL: http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=4992&cid=20242
General, Reason for Rating: N/A
Romance Partners: N/A
An expression of thanks to the Ringbearer.



SubCategory: Genres: Poetry: With Hobbits

My Treasure (332): Armariel
URL: http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=3418&cid=22326
General, Reason for Rating: N/A
Romance Partners: N/A
Sam Gamgee anticipates his reunion with Frodo in the Undying Lands.

On the Banks of the Brandywine (Berilac's Song) (712): Dreamflower
URL: http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=4203&cid=20734
General, Reason for Rating: N/A
Romance Partners: N/A
A traditional courting song of Buckland

Two Yuletide Carols of the Shire (736): Dreamflower
URL: http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=4203&cid=16850
General, Reason for Rating: N/A
Romance Partners: N/A
Two traditional Yuletide Carols often sung in the Shire.

My Children: Reflections from the Shire (35): Gryffinjack
URL: http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=5178&cid=21387
General, Reason for Rating: There is nothing objectionable in this poem.
Romance Partners: N/A
The Shire reflects on her loss of four special sons.

Romancing the Smut (797): Llinos
URL: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1157815/7/Lord_of_the_Rings_Poetry
Teen, Reason for Rating: As the title suggests, some slightly smutty
language and references.
Romance Partners: Merry, Eowyn
Merry is trying to be romantic and write Eowyn a poem, but Pippin
isn't buying it.

The Yuletide Festival Feast Song (802): Llinos
URL: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1157815/3/Lord_of_the_Rings_Poetry
General, Reason for Rating:
Romance Partners: N/A
Merry and Pippin not only sing about food, they do it in Alphabetical
order - well sometimes.

Watching and Waiting (796): Llinos
URL: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1157815/8/Lord_of_the_Rings_Poetry
General, Reason for Rating:
Romance Partners: N/A
Pippin is watching over Merry in the Houses of Healing. Perhaps Merry
heard him, for when he waits in Cormallen for Pippin to wake, he has
similar thoughts.

A Hobbit's Tale (253): Pearl Took
URL: http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=4170&cid=22389
General, Reason for Rating:
Romance Partners: N/A
An old hobbit tells a tale and muses over an important part of his
life, and the lives of others. What we do touches so many other's lives.

The End (783): trikywun
URL: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3641579/1/The_End
General, Reason for Rating: n/a
Romance Partners: n/a
Frodo's thoughts as he bids Sam farewell at the Grey Havens.

Hope Unquenched (410): White Gull
URL: http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=5047&cid=20657
General, Reason for Rating: N/A
Romance Partners: N/A
In Sam's heart hope never died.

Could "Gold Rings and Sam" (a Dr. Seuss parody) be moved to a humor category
instead of general poetry?

Thanks,

Branwyn



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Check Ballots for Main Category Genres: Poetry: General

Between Friends (396): agape4gondor
URL:
http://www.henneth-
<http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/chapter_view.cfm?stid=6728&SPOrdinal=1

> annun.net/stories/chapter_view.cfm?stid=6728&SPOrdinal=1

General, Reason for Rating:
Romance Partners: N/A
Smeagol and Deagol have a moment.

Triolet: The Weaver's Song (553): annmarwalk
URL: http://www.storieso
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=3696&cid=22989>
farda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=3696&cid=22989
General, Reason for Rating:
Romance Partners: n/a
Inspired by Boromir's fabulous cloak. A triolet is a poem or stanza of
eight lines with a rhyme scheme abaaabab, in which the fourth and
seventh lines are the same as the first, and the eighth line is the
same as the second. Written for the "Cold" challenge at LJ community
tolkien_weekly,

Burning Your Bridges (125): Branwyn
URL: http://www.storieso
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=4652&cid=22369>
farda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=4652&cid=22369
General, Reason for Rating: N/A
Romance Partners: N/A
Soldiers destroy the last bridge at Osgiliath. [Note: though Boromir
was in charge of the defense of Osgiliath, Faramir would be the
logical person to oversee destruction of the bridge since he has been
fighting as a partisan and presumably has more experience with
demolition than Boromir has.]

Gold Rings and Sam (501): Branwyn
URL: http://www.fanficti <http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2919812/20/>
on.net/s/2919812/20/
General, Reason for Rating: N/A
Romance Partners: N/A
With abject apologies to Dr. Seuss and Tolkien.

A Collection of Sindarin Tanka (224): juno_magic
URL: http://www.tolkienf
<http://www.tolkienfanfiction.com/Story_Read_Head.php?STid=451>
anfiction.com/Story_Read_Head.php?STid=451
Teen, Reason for Rating: I rate this series of tanka "teen" as it does
contain suggestive erotic scenes and illustrations, but no full
frontal nudity or anything explicit.
Romance Partners: N/A
A series of tanka (a short form of Japanese poetry similar to haiku)
written originally in Sindarin, with English translation,
illustrations and explanations.

Good Rest Ye Merry (798): Llinos
URL:
http://www.henneth-
<http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/chapter_view.cfm?stid=749&SPOrdinal=1>
annun.net/stories/chapter_view.cfm?stid=749&SPOrdinal=1
General, Reason for Rating:
Romance Partners: N/A
A Yuletide Carol. Not one the Fellowship might have sung, but just a
few warnings to them from anonymous well-wishers.

Hiraeth (803): Llinos
URL: http://www.fanficti
<http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1157815/10/Lord_of_the_Rings_Poetry>
on.net/s/1157815/10/Lord_of_the_Rings_Poetry
General, Reason for Rating:
Romance Partners: N/A
"Go not to the elves for counsel, for they will say both no and yes."
Elves can be introspective and dreamy - but also indecisive. "Hiraeth"
is a Welsh word meaning "longing".

The hunt across Tirion (607): Tinni
URL: http://www.fanficti <http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1512143/1/>
on.net/s/1512143/1/
General, Reason for Rating: n/a
Romance Partners: N/A
A poem about a game Fingon and Turgon play when still in Tirion

Elrond's Song (409): White Gull
URL: http://www.storieso
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=4992&cid=20242>
farda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=4992&cid=20242
General, Reason for Rating: N/A
Romance Partners: N/A
An expression of thanks to the Ringbearer.

SubCategory: Genres: Poetry: With Hobbits

My Treasure (332): Armariel
URL: http://www.storieso
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=3418&cid=22326>
farda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=3418&cid=22326
General, Reason for Rating: N/A
Romance Partners: N/A
Sam Gamgee anticipates his reunion with Frodo in the Undying Lands.

On the Banks of the Brandywine (Berilac's Song) (712): Dreamflower
URL: http://www.storieso
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=4203&cid=20734>
farda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=4203&cid=20734
General, Reason for Rating: N/A
Romance Partners: N/A
A traditional courting song of Buckland

Two Yuletide Carols of the Shire (736): Dreamflower
URL: http://www.storieso
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=4203&cid=16850>
farda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=4203&cid=16850
General, Reason for Rating: N/A
Romance Partners: N/A
Two traditional Yuletide Carols often sung in the Shire.

My Children: Reflections from the Shire (35): Gryffinjack
URL: http://www.storieso
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=5178&cid=21387>
farda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=5178&cid=21387
General, Reason for Rating: There is nothing objectionable in this poem.
Romance Partners: N/A
The Shire reflects on her loss of four special sons.

Romancing the Smut (797): Llinos
URL: http://www.fanficti
<http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1157815/7/Lord_of_the_Rings_Poetry>
on.net/s/1157815/7/Lord_of_the_Rings_Poetry
Teen, Reason for Rating: As the title suggests, some slightly smutty
language and references.
Romance Partners: Merry, Eowyn
Merry is trying to be romantic and write Eowyn a poem, but Pippin
isn't buying it.

The Yuletide Festival Feast Song (802): Llinos
URL: http://www.fanficti
<http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1157815/3/Lord_of_the_Rings_Poetry>
on.net/s/1157815/3/Lord_of_the_Rings_Poetry
General, Reason for Rating:
Romance Partners: N/A
Merry and Pippin not only sing about food, they do it in Alphabetical
order - well sometimes.

Watching and Waiting (796): Llinos
URL: http://www.fanficti
<http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1157815/8/Lord_of_the_Rings_Poetry>
on.net/s/1157815/8/Lord_of_the_Rings_Poetry
General, Reason for Rating:
Romance Partners: N/A
Pippin is watching over Merry in the Houses of Healing. Perhaps Merry
heard him, for when he waits in Cormallen for Pippin to wake, he has
similar thoughts.

A Hobbit's Tale (253): Pearl Took
URL: http://www.storieso
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=4170&cid=22389>
farda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=4170&cid=22389
General, Reason for Rating:
Romance Partners: N/A
An old hobbit tells a tale and muses over an important part of his
life, and the lives of others. What we do touches so many other's lives.

The End (783): trikywun
URL: http://www.fanficti <http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3641579/1/The_End>
on.net/s/3641579/1/The_End
General, Reason for Rating: n/a
Romance Partners: n/a
Frodo's thoughts as he bids Sam farewell at the Grey Havens.

Hope Unquenched (410): White Gull
URL: http://www.storieso
<http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=5047&cid=20657>
farda.com/chapterview.asp?sid=5047&cid=20657
General, Reason for Rating: N/A
Romance Partners: N/A
In Sam's heart hope never died.





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Hi Jane,

I'm sorry, but we can't really move "Gold Rings and Sam" to a humor
category. It has always been a rule of these awards that poetry competes
against other poems. So if we moved it to a humor subcategory it would
be compete there against full-length stories.

And rules aside, I don't think it'd do as well there. I looked at last
year's results, and assuming I did my math right (and I'm reasonably
sure I did), full-length stories (what would have the story type "Story"
this year, which was called "Other Fiction" then) got on average of
37.19 points per story. Poems got an average of 21.65. I think this is
probably because more people don't review poems, or they don't have the
technical knowledge of poetry they feel like they need to write a longer
review. In any event, I don't think a poem would be on equal footing
with a full-length story. It's why we keep them separate.

There are some humor poems in your category, so it's not like you'd be
competing against all other serious poems. I do realize it's not the
best solution (and I'm really sorry we didn't have more poems nominated
so we could have a better set up for them), but I'm not sure that the
alternative would be better.

If you'd like I *would* be glad to make a note in your summary that it's
a humorous poem, so that's obvious to people reading it.

Marta


Jane O. Abbott wrote:

>
>
> Could "Gold Rings and Sam" (a Dr. Seuss parody) be moved to a humor category
> instead of general poetry?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Branwyn
>

Thanks for responding.

Branwyn



Hi Jane,

I'm sorry, but we can't really move "Gold Rings and Sam" to a humor
category. It has always been a rule of these awards that poetry competes
against other poems. So if we moved it to a humor subcategory it would
be compete there against full-length stories.

And rules aside, I don't think it'd do as well there. I looked at last
year's results, and assuming I did my math right (and I'm reasonably
sure I did), full-length stories (what would have the story type "Story"
this year, which was called "Other Fiction" then) got on average of
37.19 points per story. Poems got an average of 21.65. I think this is
probably because more people don't review poems, or they don't have the
technical knowledge of poetry they feel like they need to write a longer
review. In any event, I don't think a poem would be on equal footing
with a full-length story. It's why we keep them separate.

There are some humor poems in your category, so it's not like you'd be
competing against all other serious poems. I do realize it's not the
best solution (and I'm really sorry we didn't have more poems nominated
so we could have a better set up for them), but I'm not sure that the
alternative would be better.

If you'd like I *would* be glad to make a note in your summary that it's
a humorous poem, so that's obvious to people reading it.

Marta

Jane O. Abbott wrote:

>
>
> Could "Gold Rings and Sam" (a Dr. Seuss parody) be moved to a humor

category

> instead of general poetry?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Branwyn
>

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