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I certainly did not consider that a mandate nor a request! Dear lord! I have
no idea how you and the other MEFA volunteers are keeping up as it is. I
thought it sounded like fun at some point, for someone else to do--certainly not
the MEFA admin!

For example one could conceivably use an LJ poll open to everyone. Not right
now. I think people should just concentrate on reading and reviewing.





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Hi Oshun,

Coolness! I just wanted to make sure you guys weren't asking for a poll
to be set up.

I think a private poll, like at LJ, might be cool - so long as it's done
later, like you say. :-)

Marta

heartofoshun@aol.com wrote:

>
>
> I certainly did not consider that a mandate nor a request! Dear lord! I
> have
> no idea how you and the other MEFA volunteers are keeping up as it is. I
> thought it sounded like fun at some point, for someone else to
> do--certainly not
> the MEFA admin!
>
> For example one could conceivably use an LJ poll open to everyone. Not
> right
> now. I think people should just concentrate on reading and reviewing.
>
>
>
> **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for
> FanHouse Fantasy Football today.
> (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020
> <http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020>)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

I've been reading this discussion about spoilers and have decided to put in
my 2-cents-worth. (*grin)

It's a tricky thing. I try not to write reviews that reveal MAJOR plotlines,
though I see nothing wrong with stating that you liked a particular scene or
piece of dialogue and quote it. This is just a normal aspect of reviewing
anything... you have to give examples of what you are talking about.
Recently I wrote two reviews and could not decide if they contained spoilers
so I sent the reviews to the authors in a PM and asked *them* if they
thought my review contained spoilers. One said she didn't see anything that
was a specific spoiler, the other one said go ahead an put the spoiler lable
on. Now, in both cases, I knew the authors personally so I felt comfortable
sending them the review and asking for their opinion. I doubt I would do
that to an author I didn't know.

On the other hand I was writing a review the other night and couldn't decide
if it contained spoilers so I checked the summary offered by the author for
the story and saw that the summary was more revealing than my review! So I
decided putting a spoiler alert on the review was senseless.

There really is a fine line and it's hard to say where it's crossed. I think
the best maxim is "if in doubt, tick" or if you know the author, ask. I tend
not to read reviews of stories I've already selected to read until after
I've read the story and just skp over the reviews of other stories I haven't
read that have the spoiler alert until I've read the story. At least with
the alert I know which reviews to skip until I'm ready to read them.

So that's my take... for what it's worth. I do think sometime perhaps during
the post-mortem period a poll or discussion about this would be efficacious
to seeing if it's worth using next year.

FIONDIL

--
"What part of 'You're dead' don't you understand?" -- Nýmo to an
Unidentified Elven Fýa giving the Lord of Mandos grief

****
Auta i lýmý! Utýlie'n aurý! ý Battle Cry of the Noldor at the Dagor Nirnaeth
Arnediad

Aurý entuluva! ý Battle Cry of Hýrin at the Dagor Nirnath Arnediad

Utýlie'n Estel ý Hope hath come


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I don't read reviews at all. I look for the things that interest me - mostly
Boromir - and read tthose first... then I read authors I know and like -
then I read anything about the lesser known characters....

With a goal of 100 stories, I get to read a lot... I don't have time to read
reviews... and I really don't want to be 'swayed' by another person's
view...

That's just me.
Agape

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:47 PM, melayton@gmail.com <melayton@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Oshun,
>
> Coolness! I just wanted to make sure you guys weren't asking for a poll
> to be set up.
>
> I think a private poll, like at LJ, might be cool - so long as it's done
> later, like you say. :-)
>
> Marta
>
> heartofoshun@aol.com <heartofoshun%40aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I certainly did not consider that a mandate nor a request! Dear lord! I
> > have
> > no idea how you and the other MEFA volunteers are keeping up as it is. I
> > thought it sounded like fun at some point, for someone else to
> > do--certainly not
> > the MEFA admin!
> >
> > For example one could conceivably use an LJ poll open to everyone. Not
> > right
> > now. I think people should just concentrate on reading and reviewing.
> >
> >
> >
> > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for
> > FanHouse Fantasy Football today.
> > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020
> > <http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020>)
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
>

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I've already told Fiondil this: I think he should give lessons in how
to write a review! :D I feel I say the same thing over and over
again no matter what I'm reviewing.

nautika


--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Arthur Boccaccio" <namondil@...>
wrote:

>
> It's a tricky thing. I try not to write reviews that reveal MAJOR

plotlines,

> though I see nothing wrong with stating that you liked a particular

scene or

> piece of dialogue and quote it. This is just a normal aspect of

reviewing

> anything... you have to give examples of what you are talking about.
> Recently I wrote two reviews and could not decide if they contained

spoilers

> so I sent the reviews to the authors in a PM and asked *them* if

they

> thought my review contained spoilers. One said she didn't see

anything that

> was a specific spoiler, the other one said go ahead an put the

spoiler lable

> on. Now, in both cases, I knew the authors personally so I felt

comfortable

> sending them the review and asking for their opinion. I doubt I

would do

> that to an author I didn't know.
>
> On the other hand I was writing a review the other night and

couldn't decide

> if it contained spoilers so I checked the summary offered by the

author for

> the story and saw that the summary was more revealing than my

review! So I

> decided putting a spoiler alert on the review was senseless.
>
> There really is a fine line and it's hard to say where it's

crossed. I think

> the best maxim is "if in doubt, tick" or if you know the author,

ask. I tend

> not to read reviews of stories I've already selected to read until

after

> I've read the story and just skp over the reviews of other stories

I haven't

> read that have the spoiler alert until I've read the story. At

least with

> the alert I know which reviews to skip until I'm ready to read them.
>
> So that's my take... for what it's worth. I do think sometime

perhaps during

> the post-mortem period a poll or discussion about this would be

efficacious

> to seeing if it's worth using next year.
>
> FIONDIL
>
> --
> "What part of 'You're dead' don't you understand?" -- Ná­¯ to an
> Unidentified Elven Fë¡ giving the Lord of Mandos grief
>
> ****
> Auta i ló­«¡ Ut?n aurë¡ ? Battle Cry of the Noldor at the Dagor Nirnaeth
> Arnediad
>
> Aurë ¥ntuluva! ? Battle Cry of H?at the Dagor Nirnath Arnediad
>
> Ut?n Estel ? Hope hath come
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Nautika,

In case you (or anyone else who may be interested) haven't seen it,
there's a great resource in the MEFA FAQ section called "Strategies
for Reviewing from Veteran Reviewers" (link below). It's just what it
says it is: tips on reviewing from some of the experts! And if
Fiondil would like to contribute an entry, he's more than welcome! :)

Kathy/Inkling

http://www.mefawards.net/MEFA2008/index.php?
page=FAQreviewing&PHPSESSID=fe2701920cf01dc25dec3b5689e5a9f7

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "nau_tika" <nau_tika@...> wrote:
>
> I've already told Fiondil this: I think he should give lessons in
> how to write a review! :D I feel I say the same thing over and
> over again no matter what I'm reviewing.
>
> nautika
>
>
> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Arthur Boccaccio" <namondil@>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > It's a tricky thing. I try not to write reviews that reveal MAJOR
> plotlines,
> > though I see nothing wrong with stating that you liked a
particular
> scene or
> > piece of dialogue and quote it. This is just a normal aspect of
> reviewing
> > anything... you have to give examples of what you are talking
about.
> > Recently I wrote two reviews and could not decide if they
contained
> spoilers
> > so I sent the reviews to the authors in a PM and asked *them* if
> they
> > thought my review contained spoilers. One said she didn't see
> anything that
> > was a specific spoiler, the other one said go ahead an put the
> spoiler lable
> > on. Now, in both cases, I knew the authors personally so I felt
> comfortable
> > sending them the review and asking for their opinion. I doubt I
> would do
> > that to an author I didn't know.
> >
> > On the other hand I was writing a review the other night and
> couldn't decide
> > if it contained spoilers so I checked the summary offered by the
> author for
> > the story and saw that the summary was more revealing than my
> review! So I
> > decided putting a spoiler alert on the review was senseless.
> >
> > There really is a fine line and it's hard to say where it's
> crossed. I think
> > the best maxim is "if in doubt, tick" or if you know the author,
> ask. I tend
> > not to read reviews of stories I've already selected to read
until
> after
> > I've read the story and just skp over the reviews of other
stories
> I haven't
> > read that have the spoiler alert until I've read the story. At
> least with
> > the alert I know which reviews to skip until I'm ready to read
them.
> >
> > So that's my take... for what it's worth. I do think sometime
> perhaps during
> > the post-mortem period a poll or discussion about this would be
> efficacious
> > to seeing if it's worth using next year.
> >
> > FIONDIL
> >
> > --
> > "What part of 'You're dead' don't you understand?" -- Ná­¯ to an
> > Unidentified Elven Fë¡ giving the Lord of Mandos grief
> >
> > ****
> > Auta i ló­«¡ Ut?n aurë¡ ? Battle Cry of the Noldor at the Dagor
Nirnaeth
> > Arnediad
> >
> > Aurë ¥ntuluva! ? Battle Cry of H?at the Dagor Nirnath Arnediad
> >
> > Ut?n Estel ? Hope hath come
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>