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Msg# 964

Uploaded Elves Award banner Posted by Tinni May 18, 2004 - 8:11:20 Topic ID# 964
Uploaded an Elves Award Banner. Hopefully it's something people will
actually want on their site. -Tinni

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/mefawards/vwp?.dir=/Award+Banner
+Submission+(pls.+subdivide)/Elves&.dnm=Elves%
231.jpg&.src=gr&.view=t&.hires=t

Msg# 965

Banners Posted by antoinette\_brenion@eee.org May 18, 2004 - 8:32:48 Topic ID# 964
The banners Look good. Thank for all the hard work in creating them.

Antoinette

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Msg# 966

Re: Uploaded Elves Award banner Posted by Ainaechoiriel May 18, 2004 - 9:24:25 Topic ID# 964
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tinni [mailto:tinni@fanfiction.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 8:05 AM
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MEFAwards] Uploaded Elves Award banner
>
> Uploaded an Elves Award Banner. Hopefully it's something
> people will actually want on their site. -Tinni
>
> http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/mefawards/vwp?.dir=/Award+Banner
> +Submission+(pls.+subdivide)/Elves&.dnm=Elves%
> 231.jpg&.src=gr&.view=t&.hires=t

Tinni,

It's a good looking banner but unfortunately, it doesn't fit any of the
Elves Award titles.

Peerhaps that is my fault. I'll have to go back and look at the info I have
on the Fan Art contest. Okay, I found this paragraph:

Banners should have the following Words on them: (the award title), "2004",
and "MEFA". *They should be geared to the individual award. For example, a
Witch King banner for The Witch-King of Angmar Award, not a collection of
Orcs.*

The Awards for the Elves Categories are:

1) The Ingwe of Valinor Award
2) The Elu Thingol of Doriath Award
3) The Turgon of Gondolin Award

I do hope you'll give it another try, Tinni. The Elf banner you made shnows
you have the talent. And don't forget to put the name of the Award on the
banner itself.

Thanks.

--Ainaechoiriel

"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.

http://www.stormpages.com/gabrielle/lotr Land of Myth and Memory
Blog: http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com

Msg# 967

Re: Banners Posted by gwathyg May 18, 2004 - 12:06:59 Topic ID# 964
--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, antoinette_brenion@e... wrote:
> The banners Look good. Thank for all the hard work in creating
them.
>
> Antoinette
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

:D:D:D

They are fun to make.

~Gwathy

Msg# 970

Re: Uploaded Elves Award banner Posted by Tinni May 18, 2004 - 18:32:04 Topic ID# 964
Maglor: ! What did the son's of Feanor ever do to you? Why can't
there be an award from us!

Glorfindel: Or me! Everybody knows I am the most popular elf.

Legolas: Excuse me!

Glorfindel: You heard me pretty boy.

Tinni: Sorry about that Ainaechoiriel but my quendi muse never listen
to me. I just read the
http://mefawards.agreatserver.com/ArtContest.html page and it didn't
say that you only had those three awards from elves. Unfortunately I
don't much care for either Elu, Turgon or Ingwe. So that's pretty
much me out of the award banner race. Unless of course one of the
said three elves decide to inspire me. ;)

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Ainaechoiriel" <mefaadmin@e...>
wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tinni [mailto:tinni@f...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 8:05 AM
> > To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [MEFAwards] Uploaded Elves Award banner
> >
> > Uploaded an Elves Award Banner. Hopefully it's something
> > people will actually want on their site. -Tinni
> >
> >
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/mefawards/vwp?.dir=/Award+Banner
> > +Submission+(pls.+subdivide)/Elves&.dnm=Elves%
> > 231.jpg&.src=gr&.view=t&.hires=t
>
> Tinni,
>
> It's a good looking banner but unfortunately, it doesn't fit any of
the
> Elves Award titles.
>
> Peerhaps that is my fault. I'll have to go back and look at the
info I have
> on the Fan Art contest. Okay, I found this paragraph:
>
> Banners should have the following Words on them: (the award
title), "2004",
> and "MEFA". *They should be geared to the individual award. For
example, a
> Witch King banner for The Witch-King of Angmar Award, not a
collection of
> Orcs.*
>
> The Awards for the Elves Categories are:
>
> 1) The Ingwe of Valinor Award
> 2) The Elu Thingol of Doriath Award
> 3) The Turgon of Gondolin Award
>
> I do hope you'll give it another try, Tinni. The Elf banner you
made shnows
> you have the talent. And don't forget to put the name of the Award
on the
> banner itself.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --Ainaechoiriel
>
> "This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond
said, "for
> it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.
>
> http://www.stormpages.com/gabrielle/lotr Land of Myth and Memory
> Blog: http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com

Msg# 971

Re: Uploaded Elves Award banner Posted by Ainaechoiriel May 18, 2004 - 23:01:49 Topic ID# 964
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tinni [mailto:tinni@fanfiction.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 6:31 PM
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MEFAwards] Re: Uploaded Elves Award banner
>
> Maglor: ! What did the son's of Feanor ever do to you? Why
> can't there be an award from us!
>
> Glorfindel: Or me! Everybody knows I am the most popular elf.
>
> Legolas: Excuse me!
>
> Glorfindel: You heard me pretty boy.

;-) Hey I was shocked myself that there is no Award that would include
Legolas, except for the PoC award in Crossovers.

> Tinni: Sorry about that Ainaechoiriel but my quendi muse
> never listen to me. I just read the
> http://mefawards.agreatserver.com/ArtContest.html page and it
> didn't say that you only had those three awards from elves.

I didn't spell out all the award titles there as I'd already done so in the
FAQ. I'll make a revision to note that a person can see the titles in the
2004 MEFA Winners database on the Yahoo site. Of course, there are no
winners yet, but I've already put awards names in there with their
placements.

> Unfortunately I don't much care for either Elu, Turgon or
> Ingwe. So that's pretty much me out of the award banner race.
> Unless of course one of the said three elves decide to inspire me. ;)

We picked three of the kingdoms of Elves from First Age. Which meant that
there is no Thranduil Award or Legolas Award. :-(

To make up for that, I made a MEFA button of Legolas from the coronation.
Not an Awards button but a button for linking to the site. Would you like
your Elves banner to be used for that purpose? If so, post it in the other
main folder in the Photos section and I'll pick it up for the website from
there.

--Ainaechoiriel

"This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves," Elrond said, "for
it is Windows-compatible, and freeware at that." --H.F.

http://www.stormpages.com/gabrielle/lotr Land of Myth and Memory
Blog: http://www.ainaechoiriel.blogspot.com

Msg# 972

Re: Uploaded Elves Award banner Posted by Tinni May 18, 2004 - 23:15:07 Topic ID# 964
>
> We picked three of the kingdoms of Elves from First Age. Which
meant that
> there is no Thranduil Award or Legolas Award. :-(
>
> To make up for that, I made a MEFA button of Legolas from the
coronation.
> Not an Awards button but a button for linking to the site. Would
you like
> your Elves banner to be used for that purpose? If so, post it in
the other
> main folder in the Photos section and I'll pick it up for the
website from
> there.
>
> --Ainaechoiriel
>

Maglor would like me to point our that the Sons of Feanor had Five
kingdoms during the first age. Other than that don't worry about it.
It doesn't fit in, it doesn't fit in. Have fun. Bye. -Tinni

Msg# 2689

Banners Posted by merrygoldgamgee November 01, 2004 - 17:11:41 Topic ID# 964
I've done my voting on the banners, and what hard choices! All of
them were beautiful!

Thank you everyone who was responsible for the Awards this year, you
have done a wonderful job : )

Marigold

Msg# 9721

Banners Posted by Cathleen January 04, 2009 - 17:58:40 Topic ID# 964
How much longer do we have to request our banners? I know everyone
would like to wrap things up for '08 soon and I don't want to wait too
long, but things have been crazy since the holidays.

Thanks!
Cathleen

Msg# 9722

Re: Banners Posted by Elena Tiriel January 05, 2009 - 7:14:03 Topic ID# 964
Hi Cathleen,

Yes, things are crazy around the holidays, aren't they? {{{hugs}}}

I'm one of the banner volunteers, and I know it's taking me longer than
expected to go through the backlog, so I will personally commit to checking
the request mailbox through the month of January. The sooner you get your
request in, the sooner one of us might address it... but please be patient!

- Barbara

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Cathleen <virginia_lee_redcat@yahoo.com>wrote:

> How much longer do we have to request our banners? I know everyone
> would like to wrap things up for '08 soon and I don't want to wait too
> long, but things have been crazy since the holidays.
>
> Thanks!
> Cathleen
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Msg# 9723

Re: Banners Posted by linaewen0 January 05, 2009 - 8:16:04 Topic ID# 964
This is helpful info to me, as well. I have been wondering about the
status of my banners after requesting them in early December, but I
haven't wanted to bug anyone if they were still being worked on.
Sounds like you all are pretty busy yet!

Best wishes on your banner work!

Lin

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Elena Tiriel" <ElenaTiriel@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Cathleen,
>
> Yes, things are crazy around the holidays, aren't they? {{{hugs}}}
>
> I'm one of the banner volunteers, and I know it's taking me longer than
> expected to go through the backlog, so I will personally commit to
checking
> the request mailbox through the month of January. The sooner you get
your
> request in, the sooner one of us might address it... but please be
patient!
>
> - Barbara
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Cathleen <virginia_lee_redcat@...>wrote:
>
> > How much longer do we have to request our banners? I know everyone
> > would like to wrap things up for '08 soon and I don't want to wait too
> > long, but things have been crazy since the holidays.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Cathleen
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Msg# 9724

Re: Banners Posted by Elena Tiriel January 05, 2009 - 8:35:54 Topic ID# 964
Hi Linaewen!

This is really embarrassing, but I can't seem to find your banner request...
did you submit it under the same screen name and/or email address? It might
be just that someone else started working on it without updating the
"claimed" list, or perhaps we didn't receive your request... I'm really
sorry!

Would you mind re-sending your request? Send it to mefa.banners [at] yahoo
[dot] com, and maybe cc me at ElenaTiriel [at] gmail [dot] com, so I can
make sure it arrives safely.

Again, I'm really sorry, Lin, but if you re-send it I'll make sure it makes
it into the queue.

- Barbara


On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 6:16 AM, linaewen0 <marggrenawalt@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> This is helpful info to me, as well. I have been wondering about the
> status of my banners after requesting them in early December, but I
> haven't wanted to bug anyone if they were still being worked on.
> Sounds like you all are pretty busy yet!
>
> Best wishes on your banner work!
>
> Lin
>
>
> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>, "Elena
> Tiriel" <ElenaTiriel@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Cathleen,
> >
> > Yes, things are crazy around the holidays, aren't they? {{{hugs}}}
> >
> > I'm one of the banner volunteers, and I know it's taking me longer than
> > expected to go through the backlog, so I will personally commit to
> checking
> > the request mailbox through the month of January. The sooner you get
> your
> > request in, the sooner one of us might address it... but please be
> patient!
> >
> > - Barbara
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Cathleen <virginia_lee_redcat@...>wrote:
> >
> > > How much longer do we have to request our banners? I know everyone
> > > would like to wrap things up for '08 soon and I don't want to wait too
> > > long, but things have been crazy since the holidays.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Cathleen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Msg# 9725

Re: Banners Posted by Elena Tiriel January 05, 2009 - 9:26:01 Topic ID# 964
Hi Linaewen!

Never mind! Tanaqui logged on and found your request, and someone has
claimed it to work on it.

Sorry, I didn't look for the right name! So, you don't have to re-send it.

Sorry for my confusion!
- Barbara

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Elena Tiriel <elenatiriel@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Linaewen!
>
> This is really embarrassing, but I can't seem to find your banner
> request... did you submit it under the same screen name and/or email
> address? It might be just that someone else started working on it without
> updating the "claimed" list, or perhaps we didn't receive your request...
> I'm really sorry!
>
> Would you mind re-sending your request? Send it to mefa.banners [at] yahoo
> [dot] com, and maybe cc me at ElenaTiriel [at] gmail [dot] com, so I can
> make sure it arrives safely.
>
> Again, I'm really sorry, Lin, but if you re-send it I'll make sure it makes
> it into the queue.
>
> - Barbara
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 6:16 AM, linaewen0 <marggrenawalt@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
>> This is helpful info to me, as well. I have been wondering about the
>> status of my banners after requesting them in early December, but I
>> haven't wanted to bug anyone if they were still being worked on.
>> Sounds like you all are pretty busy yet!
>>
>> Best wishes on your banner work!
>>
>> Lin
>>
>>
>> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>, "Elena
>> Tiriel" <ElenaTiriel@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Cathleen,
>> >
>> > Yes, things are crazy around the holidays, aren't they? {{{hugs}}}
>> >
>> > I'm one of the banner volunteers, and I know it's taking me longer than
>> > expected to go through the backlog, so I will personally commit to
>> checking
>> > the request mailbox through the month of January. The sooner you get
>> your
>> > request in, the sooner one of us might address it... but please be
>> patient!
>> >
>> > - Barbara
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Cathleen <virginia_lee_redcat@
>> ...>wrote:
>> >
>> > > How much longer do we have to request our banners? I know everyone
>> > > would like to wrap things up for '08 soon and I don't want to wait too
>> > > long, but things have been crazy since the holidays.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks!
>> > > Cathleen
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Msg# 9726

Re: Banners Posted by linaewen0 January 05, 2009 - 9:56:18 Topic ID# 964
Oh, thanks for finding it! Bless you all! :-D

Linaewen

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Elena Tiriel" <ElenaTiriel@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Linaewen!
>
> Never mind! Tanaqui logged on and found your request, and someone has
> claimed it to work on it.
>
> Sorry, I didn't look for the right name! So, you don't have to
re-send it.
>
> Sorry for my confusion!
> - Barbara
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Elena Tiriel <elenatiriel@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi Linaewen!
> >
> > This is really embarrassing, but I can't seem to find your banner
> > request... did you submit it under the same screen name and/or email
> > address? It might be just that someone else started working on it
without
> > updating the "claimed" list, or perhaps we didn't receive your
request...
> > I'm really sorry!
> >
> > Would you mind re-sending your request? Send it to mefa.banners
[at] yahoo
> > [dot] com, and maybe cc me at ElenaTiriel [at] gmail [dot] com, so
I can
> > make sure it arrives safely.
> >
> > Again, I'm really sorry, Lin, but if you re-send it I'll make sure
it makes
> > it into the queue.
> >
> > - Barbara
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 6:16 AM, linaewen0 <marggrenawalt@...>wrote:
> >
> >> This is helpful info to me, as well. I have been wondering
about the
> >> status of my banners after requesting them in early December, but I
> >> haven't wanted to bug anyone if they were still being worked on.
> >> Sounds like you all are pretty busy yet!
> >>
> >> Best wishes on your banner work!
> >>
> >> Lin
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>,
"Elena
> >> Tiriel" <ElenaTiriel@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Cathleen,
> >> >
> >> > Yes, things are crazy around the holidays, aren't they? {{{hugs}}}
> >> >
> >> > I'm one of the banner volunteers, and I know it's taking me
longer than
> >> > expected to go through the backlog, so I will personally commit to
> >> checking
> >> > the request mailbox through the month of January. The sooner
you get
> >> your
> >> > request in, the sooner one of us might address it... but please be
> >> patient!
> >> >
> >> > - Barbara
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Cathleen <virginia_lee_redcat@
> >> ...>wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > How much longer do we have to request our banners? I know
everyone
> >> > > would like to wrap things up for '08 soon and I don't want to
wait too
> >> > > long, but things have been crazy since the holidays.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks!
> >> > > Cathleen
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Msg# 9727

Re: Banners Posted by Cathleen January 05, 2009 - 10:28:27 Topic ID# 964
No problem, and thank you!!

Cathleen

Elena Tiriel <ElenaTiriel@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Cathleen,

Yes, things are crazy around the holidays, aren't they? {{{hugs}}}

I'm one of the banner volunteers, and I know it's taking me longer than
expected to go through the backlog, so I will personally commit to checking
the request mailbox through the month of January. The sooner you get your
request in, the sooner one of us might address it... but please be patient!

- Barbara

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Cathleen <virginia_lee_redcat@yahoo.com>wrote:

> How much longer do we have to request our banners? I know everyone
> would like to wrap things up for '08 soon and I don't want to wait too
> long, but things have been crazy since the holidays.
>
> Thanks!
> Cathleen
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






"Beautiful, glorious Scotland, has spoilt me for every other country!"

Mary Todd Lincoln


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Msg# 9728

ADMIN: Banners - customisation requests - STATUS update Posted by Tanaqui January 06, 2009 - 8:26:26 Topic ID# 964
Hi All

There have been several queries about banner customization recently,
and Marta has asked me to help out by tidying up the loose ends and
making sure all the winners get the banners they asked for.

I wanted to do a "status report" so that if you've already submitted a
request and not received your banners, you know what's happening and
that we haven't forgotten you. (I know our banner customizers are
working as quickly as they can in between the demands of real life, the
distractions of the festive season and other fandom commitments.)

The current status is:

* Requests received but not yet claimed by a banner customizer: docmon,
Keiliss, Kenaz, lindalea

* Requests claimed and being worked on: Jael, Ignoble Bard and linaewen

* Queries about banners already sent out: received from Neilia,
Primsong, gamgeefest and Alassante7 (I'm checking with the banner
customizers to make sure these are being handled.)

* Winners who have received most of their banners but may have one more
to come: Stefaniab, Linda Hoyland, Jay of Lasgalen

If you're not on any of these lists and think you should be, please drop
us a line at mefa [dot] banners [at] yahoo [dot] com. If you're on one
of the lists but you've received your banners or already had your query
dealt with, please drop us a line at the same address so I can update
our records.

If you still need to get your request in (and it's hard work choosing
from such a wonderful selection of banners!), please send it to the same
address as soon as you can. (Elena Tiriel has offered to keep dealing
with requests until at least the end of January, but the sooner you can
get your request in, the better!)

Finally, I'm sure all MEFA members, and especially winning authors,
would like to join me in thanking all the wonderful people who have made
banners or customized them for all their hard work: Baranduin,
Cactuskim, Elea24, Elena Tiriel, Marta, mistry89, Nath, Nau_tika,
Nieriel Raina and Viv. We couldn't run the MEFAs without you or any of
our other hard-working volunteers!

Tanaqui
MEFA Tech Support

Msg# 9732

Re: ADMIN: Banners - customisation requests - STATUS update Posted by PGF January 17, 2009 - 3:17:27 Topic ID# 964
There are so many gorgeous banners - would you believe I'm still
picking mine out? I'm glad I have until the end of January;
hopefully I'll sort out my requests before then.


Raksha The Demon




<<<<--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Tanaqui <tanaqui@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> There have been several queries about banner customization recently,
> and Marta has asked me to help out by tidying up the loose ends and
> making sure all the winners get the banners they asked for.
>
> I wanted to do a "status report" so that if you've already
submitted a
> request and not received your banners, you know what's happening and
> that we haven't forgotten you. (I know our banner customizers are
> working as quickly as they can in between the demands of real life,
the
> distractions of the festive season and other fandom commitments.)
>
> The current status is:
>
> * Requests received but not yet claimed by a banner customizer:
docmon,
> Keiliss, Kenaz, lindalea
>
> * Requests claimed and being worked on: Jael, Ignoble Bard and
linaewen
>
> * Queries about banners already sent out: received from Neilia,
> Primsong, gamgeefest and Alassante7 (I'm checking with the banner
> customizers to make sure these are being handled.)
>
> * Winners who have received most of their banners but may have one
more
> to come: Stefaniab, Linda Hoyland, Jay of Lasgalen
>
> If you're not on any of these lists and think you should be, please
drop
> us a line at mefa [dot] banners [at] yahoo [dot] com. If you're on
one
> of the lists but you've received your banners or already had your
query
> dealt with, please drop us a line at the same address so I can
update
> our records.
>
> If you still need to get your request in (and it's hard work
choosing
> from such a wonderful selection of banners!), please send it to the
same
> address as soon as you can. (Elena Tiriel has offered to keep
dealing
> with requests until at least the end of January, but the sooner you
can
> get your request in, the better!)
>
> Finally, I'm sure all MEFA members, and especially winning authors,
> would like to join me in thanking all the wonderful people who have
made
> banners or customized them for all their hard work: Baranduin,
> Cactuskim, Elea24, Elena Tiriel, Marta, mistry89, Nath, Nau_tika,
> Nieriel Raina and Viv. We couldn't run the MEFAs without you or any
of
> our other hard-working volunteers!
>
> Tanaqui
> MEFA Tech Support
>>>>>

Msg# 9733

Re: ADMIN: Banners - customisation requests - STATUS update Posted by Cathleen January 17, 2009 - 8:20:52 Topic ID# 964
I've sent my requests in recently but haven't heard anything yet.
Cathleen

PGF <PGail99@aol.com> wrote:
There are so many gorgeous banners - would you believe I'm still
picking mine out? I'm glad I have until the end of January;
hopefully I'll sort out my requests before then.

Raksha The Demon

<<<<--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Tanaqui <tanaqui@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> There have been several queries about banner customization recently,
> and Marta has asked me to help out by tidying up the loose ends and
> making sure all the winners get the banners they asked for.
>
> I wanted to do a "status report" so that if you've already
submitted a
> request and not received your banners, you know what's happening and
> that we haven't forgotten you. (I know our banner customizers are
> working as quickly as they can in between the demands of real life,
the
> distractions of the festive season and other fandom commitments.)
>
> The current status is:
>
> * Requests received but not yet claimed by a banner customizer:
docmon,
> Keiliss, Kenaz, lindalea
>
> * Requests claimed and being worked on: Jael, Ignoble Bard and
linaewen
>
> * Queries about banners already sent out: received from Neilia,
> Primsong, gamgeefest and Alassante7 (I'm checking with the banner
> customizers to make sure these are being handled.)
>
> * Winners who have received most of their banners but may have one
more
> to come: Stefaniab, Linda Hoyland, Jay of Lasgalen
>
> If you're not on any of these lists and think you should be, please
drop
> us a line at mefa [dot] banners [at] yahoo [dot] com. If you're on
one
> of the lists but you've received your banners or already had your
query
> dealt with, please drop us a line at the same address so I can
update
> our records.
>
> If you still need to get your request in (and it's hard work
choosing
> from such a wonderful selection of banners!), please send it to the
same
> address as soon as you can. (Elena Tiriel has offered to keep
dealing
> with requests until at least the end of January, but the sooner you
can
> get your request in, the better!)
>
> Finally, I'm sure all MEFA members, and especially winning authors,
> would like to join me in thanking all the wonderful people who have
made
> banners or customized them for all their hard work: Baranduin,
> Cactuskim, Elea24, Elena Tiriel, Marta, mistry89, Nath, Nau_tika,
> Nieriel Raina and Viv. We couldn't run the MEFAs without you or any
of
> our other hard-working volunteers!
>
> Tanaqui
> MEFA Tech Support
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"Beautiful, glorious Scotland, has spoilt me for every other country!"

Mary Todd Lincoln


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Msg# 9734

Re: ADMIN: Banners - customisation requests - STATUS update - 2 Posted by Tanaqui January 18, 2009 - 5:06:27 Topic ID# 964
Hi All

I just wanted to give you another status update. Our wonderful banner
customizers have been working hard over the past week, and have sent out
lots more banners. *g*

They are currently working on requests from Imhiriel, Ignoble Bard,
Allie Meril, Dreamflower and Cathleen.

If you sent in a request and haven't received your banners, but you're
not on this list, please let us know.

If you still want to make a request, please could you make it as soon as
possible, and before the end of January at the latest. (And yes, I know
how hard it is to decide which banners to have!)

Once again, a huge thanks to all our banner makers and customizers.

Tanaqui
MEFA Tech Support

Msg# 9735

Re: ADMIN: Banners - customisation requests - STATUS update - 2 Posted by Cathleen January 18, 2009 - 7:53:35 Topic ID# 964
A heartfelt round of *APPLAUSE* to the banner folks!! Your work is much appreciated!!!

Cathleen

Tanaqui <tanaqui@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Hi All

I just wanted to give you another status update. Our wonderful banner
customizers have been working hard over the past week, and have sent out
lots more banners. *g*

They are currently working on requests from Imhiriel, Ignoble Bard,
Allie Meril, Dreamflower and Cathleen.

If you sent in a request and haven't received your banners, but you're
not on this list, please let us know.

If you still want to make a request, please could you make it as soon as
possible, and before the end of January at the latest. (And yes, I know
how hard it is to decide which banners to have!)

Once again, a huge thanks to all our banner makers and customizers.

Tanaqui
MEFA Tech Support






"Beautiful, glorious Scotland, has spoilt me for every other country!"

Mary Todd Lincoln


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Msg# 9736

Re: ADMIN: Banners - customisation requests - STATUS update - 2 Posted by debnear@comcast.net January 18, 2009 - 12:27:19 Topic ID# 964
Hi, Tanaqui,



Which website is it again that we go to to see all of the banners that there are to choose from?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tanaqui" <tanaqui@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 5:51:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] Re: ADMIN: Banners - customisation requests - STATUS update - 2






Hi All

I just wanted to give you another status update. Our wonderful banner
customizers have been working hard over the past week, and have sent out
lots more banners. *g*

They are currently working on requests from Imhiriel, Ignoble Bard,
Allie Meril, Dreamflower and Cathleen.

If you sent in a request and haven't received your banners, but you're
not on this list, please let us know.

If you still want to make a request, please could you make it as soon as
possible, and before the end of January at the latest. (And yes, I know
how hard it is to decide which banners to have!)

Once again, a huge thanks to all our banner makers and customizers.

Tanaqui
MEFA Tech Support



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Msg# 9737

Re: ADMIN: Banners - customisation requests - STATUS update - 2 Posted by Tanaqui January 18, 2009 - 16:54:11 Topic ID# 964
Hi

The official banner site is at http://mefawards.net/fanart/. If you need
the login password to download any nominee banners, please email me and
I'll send it to you.

Elena Tiriel is also willing to customize the "unofficial" banners which
she made too late to be included in this year's set of official banners.
You can find these at
http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/Elena_Tiriel/MEFA_2008_Banners/

HTH

Tanaqui
MEFA Tech Support


debnear@comcast.net wrote:
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> Hi, Tanaqui,
>
> Which website is it again that we go to to see all of the banners that
> there are to choose from?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tanaqui" <tanaqui@blueyonder.co.uk
> <mailto:tanaqui%40blueyonder.co.uk>>
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 5:51:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] Re: ADMIN: Banners - customisation requests -
> STATUS update - 2
>
> Hi All
>
> I just wanted to give you another status update. Our wonderful banner
> customizers have been working hard over the past week, and have sent out
> lots more banners. *g*
>
> They are currently working on requests from Imhiriel, Ignoble Bard,
> Allie Meril, Dreamflower and Cathleen.
>
> If you sent in a request and haven't received your banners, but you're
> not on this list, please let us know.
>
> If you still want to make a request, please could you make it as soon as
> possible, and before the end of January at the latest. (And yes, I know
> how hard it is to decide which banners to have!)
>
> Once again, a huge thanks to all our banner makers and customizers.
>
> Tanaqui
> MEFA Tech Support
>
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Msg# 10408

Banners Posted by Ellin Ithilwen May 18, 2010 - 5:37:50 Topic ID# 964
Hello everyone!

After the first few banners I've made, now I have to make a pause, for I will be away from home (and computer) for a few days. When I return, I'll make more; if you have any wishes, don't hesitate to contact me. I'll do my best to make as many banners as possible. :)
Bye,

Ellynn





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Msg# 10503

Banners Posted by Linda June 09, 2010 - 20:27:34 Topic ID# 964
First I would like to say I'm most impressed at the quality and range of nomination banners on offer for this year's awards. there is truly something for everyone and I'm enjoying choosing some for my stories.

I am concerned,though at the amount of graphics on one page. I have a broadband connection of 7.5Mbps and my computer is struggling to load all the pictures and I keep getting error messages and missing pictures. If I'm having this problem,I dread to think how anyone with a slow connection must be faring.

Another thing that might be an idea to consider for the future, is to include graphics based on "Star Of Hope" as well as the Jackson films as lots of people write little Estel stories. That is just a thought.

A big thank you to all the banner creators,

Linda

Msg# 10504

Banners Posted by Linda June 09, 2010 - 20:53:05 Topic ID# 964
First I would like to say I'm most impressed at the quality and range of nomination banners on offer for this year's awards. there is truly something for everyone and I'm enjoying choosing some for my stories.

I am concerned,though at the amount of graphics on one page. I have a broadband connection of 7.5Mbps and my computer is struggling to load all the pictures and I keep getting error messages and missing pictures. If I'm having this problem,I dread to think how anyone with a slow connection must be faring.

Another thing that might be an idea to consider for the future, is to include graphics based on "Star Of Hope" as well as the Jackson films as lots of people write little Estel stories. That is just a thought.

A big thank you to all the banner creators,

Linda

Msg# 10505

Re: Banners Posted by telperion1 June 09, 2010 - 21:31:11 Topic ID# 964
Hi Linda,

> First I would like to say I'm most impressed at the quality and range
> of nomination banners on offer for this year's awards. there is truly
> something for everyone and I'm enjoying choosing some for my stories.
>

Thanks - I'm sure the banner artists appreciate knowing you enjoyed them.

> I am concerned,though at the amount of graphics on one page. I have a
> broadband connection of 7.5Mbps and my computer is struggling to load
> all the pictures and I keep getting error messages and missing
> pictures. If I'm having this problem,I dread to think how anyone with a
> slow connection must be faring.
>

I've shared this concern with NeumeIndil, who handles the banner side of
things. I really don't know enough about Picasa to know how we can best
handle this. But I hope we can find a solution to this.

> Another thing that might be an idea to consider for the future, is to
> include graphics based on "Star Of Hope" as well as the Jackson films
> as lots of people write little Estel stories. That is just a thought.
>

That's a good suggestion, too, and I've passed it on to Neume. However, I
don't really want to encourage people to create specific graphics for
specific characters. Some of that happens, obviously, and it's 100% fine.
But we'll never be thorough there, just because Tolkien fandom is so
diverse. I think it's better to try to get as many banners that are
attractive and interesting but aren't necessarily character-specific.

But I *have* passed this suggestion on, and maybe someone will do something
with it. If you have the time and want to create some Star of Hope banners,
we'd welcome them, too. :-)

Marta

Msg# 10507

Re: Banners Posted by Ellin Ithilwen June 10, 2010 - 2:48:54 Topic ID# 964
As one of the banner-makers, I am glad to hear you like banners. :) I would just like to say that I have completed my first plan for nominee banners - for now. I have some more ideas, but they will have to wait a few weeks.
In the meantime, if any of you has a wish - a banner with some particular character or scene - don't hesitate to ask. Just send me an e-mail and tell me what you would like. ;)

Ellynn


--- On Wed, 6/9/10, Linda <gingerleo@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Linda <gingerleo@gmail.com>
Subject: [MEFAwards] Banners
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 6:51 PM

















First I would like to say I'm most impressed at the quality and range of nomination banners on offer for this year's awards. there is truly something for everyone and I'm enjoying choosing some for my stories.



I am concerned,though at the amount of graphics on one page. I have a broadband connection of 7.5Mbps and my computer is struggling to load all the pictures and I keep getting error messages and missing pictures. If I'm having this problem,I dread to think how anyone with a slow connection must be faring.



Another thing that might be an idea to consider for the future, is to include graphics based on "Star Of Hope" as well as the Jackson films as lots of people write little Estel stories. That is just a thought.



A big thank you to all the banner creators,



Linda

























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Msg# 10508

Re: Banners Posted by Linda June 11, 2010 - 0:39:03 Topic ID# 964
Thanks for looking into the problem, Marta,

Linda

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "telperion1" <marta.fandom@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Linda,
>
> > First I would like to say I'm most impressed at the quality and range
> > of nomination banners on offer for this year's awards. there is truly
> > something for everyone and I'm enjoying choosing some for my stories.
> >
>
> Thanks - I'm sure the banner artists appreciate knowing you enjoyed them.
>
> > I am concerned,though at the amount of graphics on one page. I have a
> > broadband connection of 7.5Mbps and my computer is struggling to load
> > all the pictures and I keep getting error messages and missing
> > pictures. If I'm having this problem,I dread to think how anyone with a
> > slow connection must be faring.
> >
>
> I've shared this concern with NeumeIndil, who handles the banner side of
> things. I really don't know enough about Picasa to know how we can best
> handle this. But I hope we can find a solution to this.
>
> > Another thing that might be an idea to consider for the future, is to
> > include graphics based on "Star Of Hope" as well as the Jackson films
> > as lots of people write little Estel stories. That is just a thought.
> >
>
> That's a good suggestion, too, and I've passed it on to Neume. However, I
> don't really want to encourage people to create specific graphics for
> specific characters. Some of that happens, obviously, and it's 100% fine.
> But we'll never be thorough there, just because Tolkien fandom is so
> diverse. I think it's better to try to get as many banners that are
> attractive and interesting but aren't necessarily character-specific.
>
> But I *have* passed this suggestion on, and maybe someone will do something
> with it. If you have the time and want to create some Star of Hope banners,
> we'd welcome them, too. :-)
>
> Marta
>

Msg# 10509

Re: Banners Posted by Linda June 11, 2010 - 0:41:45 Topic ID# 964
Ellynn,I do have a request,for something with Gilraen and little Estel, but don't know your e mail to contact you privately,

Linda



--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Ellin Ithilwen <ellin_revenger@...> wrote:
>
> As one of the banner-makers, I am glad to hear you like banners. :) I would just like to say that I have completed my first plan for nominee banners - for now. I have some more ideas, but they will have to wait a few weeks.
> In the meantime, if any of you has a wish - a banner with some particular character or scene - don't hesitate to ask. Just send me an e-mail and tell me what you would like. ;)
>
> Ellynn
>
>
> --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Linda <gingerleo@...> wrote:
>
> From: Linda <gingerleo@...>
> Subject: [MEFAwards] Banners
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 6:51 PM
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> Another thing that might be an idea to consider for the future, is to include graphics based on "Star Of Hope" as well as the Jackson films as lots of people write little Estel stories. That is just a thought.
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Msg# 10510

Re: Banners Posted by elfique\_irot June 11, 2010 - 2:34:00 Topic ID# 964
Hey guys,

This one's for all the banner makers out there. I meant to do this earlier but only remembered the other day when all these banner posts came up. Not sure if anyone is aware of it already, but when I'm making banners I find this site extremely helpful for finding specific source images:

http://www.tk421.net/lotr/film/

Theres a small screenshot from pretty much every key scene of the film (extended editions included).

They're not huge pictures, but since banners are usually pretty small I find them really great to use.


--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <gingerleo@...> wrote:
>
>
> Ellynn,I do have a request,for something with Gilraen and little Estel, but don't know your e mail to contact you privately,
>
> Linda
>
>
>
> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Ellin Ithilwen <ellin_revenger@> wrote:
> >
> > As one of the banner-makers, I am glad to hear you like banners. :) I would just like to say that I have completed my first plan for nominee banners - for now. I have some more ideas, but they will have to wait a few weeks.
> > In the meantime, if any of you has a wish - a banner with some particular character or scene - don't hesitate to ask. Just send me an e-mail and tell me what you would like. ;)
> >
> > Ellynn
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Linda <gingerleo@> wrote:
> >
> > From: Linda <gingerleo@>
> > Subject: [MEFAwards] Banners
> > To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
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Msg# 10511

Re: Banners Posted by telperion1 June 11, 2010 - 10:58:54 Topic ID# 964
Hi Linda and all,

I've been talking with Neume Indil, who manages the banners side of things.
Unfortunately, Picasa doesn't allow you to only display a certain number of
images per page. Neume did decrease the size of the thumbnails (the images
you see when looking at them all at once. Here are some other strategies you
can try:

1. Use the RSS feed. If you go to

http://picasaweb.google.com/MEFABanners/NomineeGraphics#

and click on the "RSS" link, you'll go to a page that lets you add the RSS
feed to any RSS reader you have. (E.G.: Google's "Google Reader," which is
web-based and uses your gmail account.) Adding this feed lets you view the
graphics through your RSS reader. The main advantage is, RSS treats each
image like its own webpage, so instead of opening one really long web page
you will be viewing several really short web pages, and then "tricking" your
browser into displaying them all at once. It should avoid the errors you are
getting, which I think come because the web page is taking too long to load.

RSS also will tell you when new graphics are added, and display only those
graphics.

2. Download the Picasa program. (http://picasa.google.com/) Picasa lets you
edit pictures, but it also lets you download other peoples' pictures. Once
you've installed it, go to the page of nominee banners, and click Download
>> Download to Picasa. This will let you view all the graphics through your
Picasa program. It may take a few minutes to download but, again, since each
picture is being treated as its own download, I don't think you'll have the
error messages you do now.

3. Look at each picture individually. As soon as the webpage starts loading,
click on any one of the banners. Then click the left arrow or right arrow to
view the previous/next banners. This may be time-consuming, but it does keep
you from downloading so much data all at once.

I don't know which approach, if any, will work for you. This is an issue
that Aranel is working on for next year's site. Unfortunately, there's not a
silver bullet to this particular problem, with the way things are set up
now.

Marta

> -----Original Message-----
> From: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Linda
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 1:39 AM
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners
>
>
>
> Thanks for looking into the problem, Marta,
>
> Linda
>
> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "telperion1" <marta.fandom@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Linda,
> >
> > > First I would like to say I'm most impressed at the quality and
> range
> > > of nomination banners on offer for this year's awards. there is
> truly
> > > something for everyone and I'm enjoying choosing some for my
> stories.
> > >
> >
> > Thanks - I'm sure the banner artists appreciate knowing you enjoyed
> them.
> >
> > > I am concerned,though at the amount of graphics on one page. I have
> a
> > > broadband connection of 7.5Mbps and my computer is struggling to
> load
> > > all the pictures and I keep getting error messages and missing
> > > pictures. If I'm having this problem,I dread to think how anyone
> with a
> > > slow connection must be faring.
> > >
> >
> > I've shared this concern with NeumeIndil, who handles the banner side
> of
> > things. I really don't know enough about Picasa to know how we can
> best
> > handle this. But I hope we can find a solution to this.
> >

Msg# 10522

Re: Banners Posted by Ellin Ithilwen June 14, 2010 - 16:15:37 Topic ID# 964
There is one more thing that crossed my mind, concerning the total number of banners and possible problems in opening the album. My suggestion is not for this year (for I can't think of anything), but for the next: if we'll use Picasa again next year, and if Picasa remains the same - that is, not being able to show only a certain number of pictures per page -†perhaps we can do it "manually". I mean, we can open album called Nominee banners 1. When there are 100 banners, we open album Nominee banners 2, and again we don't put more than 100 banners in it, and so on. What do you think? *unsure*

Ellynn


P.s. If you doubt we'll have enough banners for several albums, then I'll tell you that for all those banners I've made - I also kept layered versions, so all I have to do for next year is change 2010 to 2011. :D And I can always make more. :D




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Msg# 10523

Re: Banners Posted by kimberli leal June 14, 2010 - 16:53:05 Topic ID# 964
I run a manipulation group that uses Picasa for storing our resources, and we routinely put up to 500 very large high resolution images into each gallery without any of the problems that the one user here was describing (and I have a slow internet connection [230kbs per sec max] and until this week had an 8 year old slow computer). Picasa has been very reliable and easy to use for us, and we have over 25,000 images stored there so far. Occasionally I have had it finish loading and had a handful of images that did not load a thumbnail on the main gallery page, but all I have to do when that happens, is to refresh the page and the images that were already loaded reload almost instantly and then the missing ones load at the normal rate.

Breaking things up into different galleries is no big deal with Picasa if you want to try that though, since you can create as many galleries as you want inside one account. It also might help people find things faster too. One way to consider breaking them up/dividing them beyond just 'Nominee' etc, would be by size. Example; Icon's in one gallery larger banners in another etc, since most people people are looking for a size to fit what their forum allows.

BTW, you can easily add notes to each thumbnail if you want to identify who made things etc, AND people can comment at the Picasa galleries on individual images... a feature that might come in handy at the end of the contest when people are requesting customization of their final banners.

Cactuskim







________________________________
From: Ellin Ithilwen <ellin_revenger@yahoo.com>
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 2:15:25 PM
Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners


There is one more thing that crossed my mind, concerning the total number of banners and possible problems in opening the album. My suggestion is not for this year (for I can't think of anything), but for the next: if we'll use Picasa again next year, and if Picasa remains the same - that is, not being able to show only a certain number of pictures per page - perhaps we can do it "manually". I mean, we can open album called Nominee banners 1. When there are 100 banners, we open album Nominee banners 2, and again we don't put more than 100 banners in it, and so on. What do you think? *unsure*

Ellynn


P.s. If you doubt we'll have enough banners for several albums, then I'll tell you that for all those banners I've made - I also kept layered versions, so all I have to do for next year is change 2010 to 2011. :D And I can always make more. :D

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Msg# 10524

Re: Banners Posted by Neume Indil June 14, 2010 - 17:18:25 Topic ID# 964
Thanks for that Cactuskim. :) I'm Becky/Neu, banner coordinator for this
year.

I'm pretty familiar with how Picasa works, but I'd like to explain the
organization decision I made re: 3 sections by type of banner. Last year
while loading into Photobucket, there were several places banner makers had
to post images, I think, as you suggested nominee icons in one, small
nominee banners in one, etc. At least one person found this difficult in
Photobucket's system, and there were many difficulties with load time for
both the banner makers and the users trying to pick a graphic. Since the
wider variety of sections was part of the problem with last year's set up, I
decided for this first run with Picasa to keep things as basic and 'right in
front of you' as possible. Changing the platform is confusing enough for
some people and I didn't want to overcomplicate things unless it was
necessary.

If it turns out that large albums in Picasa are a problem as well, I'll
definitely try breaking it down by type and size next year. :) (Assuming I'm
still doing it, which as of now I haven't found reason I wouldn't volunteer
again.)

If I do run into any snags I can't work around as the albums fill up, may I
contact you to pick your brain?

Thanks again,
Neu

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:52 PM, kimberli leal <kim@flash.net> wrote:

>
>
> I run a manipulation group that uses Picasa for storing our resources, and
> we routinely put up to 500 very large high resolution images into each
> gallery without any of the problems that the one user here was describing
> (and I have a slow internet connection [230kbs per sec max] and until this
> week had an 8 year old slow computer). Picasa has been very reliable and
> easy to use for us, and we have over 25,000 images stored there so far.
> Occasionally I have had it finish loading and had a handful of images that
> did not load a thumbnail on the main gallery page, but all I have to do when
> that happens, is to refresh the page and the images that were already loaded
> reload almost instantly and then the missing ones load at the normal rate.
>
> Breaking things up into different galleries is no big deal with Picasa if
> you want to try that though, since you can create as many galleries as you
> want inside one account. It also might help people find things faster too.
> One way to consider breaking them up/dividing them beyond just 'Nominee'
> etc, would be by size. Example; Icon's in one gallery larger banners in
> another etc, since most people people are looking for a size to fit what
> their forum allows.
>
> BTW, you can easily add notes to each thumbnail if you want to identify who
> made things etc, AND people can comment at the Picasa galleries on
> individual images... a feature that might come in handy at the end of the
> contest when people are requesting customization of their final banners.
>
> Cactuskim
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ellin Ithilwen <ellin_revenger@yahoo.com<ellin_revenger%40yahoo.com>
> >
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 2:15:25 PM
> Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners
>
>
> There is one more thing that crossed my mind, concerning the total number
> of banners and possible problems in opening the album. My suggestion is not
> for this year (for I can't think of anything), but for the next: if we'll
> use Picasa again next year, and if Picasa remains the same - that is, not
> being able to show only a certain number of pictures per page - perhaps we
> can do it "manually". I mean, we can open album called Nominee banners 1.
> When there are 100 banners, we open album Nominee banners 2, and again we
> don't put more than 100 banners in it, and so on. What do you think?
> *unsure*
>
> Ellynn
>
>
> P.s. If you doubt we'll have enough banners for several albums, then I'll
> tell you that for all those banners I've made - I also kept layered
> versions, so all I have to do for next year is change 2010 to 2011. :D And I
> can always make more. :D
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Msg# 10525

Re: Banners Posted by keiliss June 14, 2010 - 18:35:52 Topic ID# 964
I don't think it's possible to generalize as to how easy it is or isn't to view the banners on Picasa. I have a six year old PC and an internet connection not all that much faster than dialup. I also live in a country with considerably slower connectivity nationally than is found for example in the US. Loading the page took me just over 20 minutes, after which I had to reload it - another 5 minutes - as around 90 images didn't show up initially. Each time I clicked on an image to see the full size and maker's name it took time to load, after which I had to return to the album and wait for the graphics to refresh.

Not complaining, just detailing the experience. This is not the end of the world (it's way better than Photobucket, which my computer loathes) and I'm patient, but I thought it fair to point out there was more than one person having a few problems with this.

Kei.

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Neume Indil <neumeindil@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for that Cactuskim. :) I'm Becky/Neu, banner coordinator for this
> year.
>
> I'm pretty familiar with how Picasa works, but I'd like to explain the
> organization decision I made re: 3 sections by type of banner. Last year
> while loading into Photobucket, there were several places banner makers had
> to post images, I think, as you suggested nominee icons in one, small
> nominee banners in one, etc. At least one person found this difficult in
> Photobucket's system, and there were many difficulties with load time for
> both the banner makers and the users trying to pick a graphic. Since the
> wider variety of sections was part of the problem with last year's set up, I
> decided for this first run with Picasa to keep things as basic and 'right in
> front of you' as possible. Changing the platform is confusing enough for
> some people and I didn't want to overcomplicate things unless it was
> necessary.
>
> If it turns out that large albums in Picasa are a problem as well, I'll
> definitely try breaking it down by type and size next year. :) (Assuming I'm
> still doing it, which as of now I haven't found reason I wouldn't volunteer
> again.)
>
> If I do run into any snags I can't work around as the albums fill up, may I
> contact you to pick your brain?
>
> Thanks again,
> Neu
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:52 PM, kimberli leal <kim@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I run a manipulation group that uses Picasa for storing our resources, and
> > we routinely put up to 500 very large high resolution images into each
> > gallery without any of the problems that the one user here was describing
> > (and I have a slow internet connection [230kbs per sec max] and until this
> > week had an 8 year old slow computer). Picasa has been very reliable and
> > easy to use for us, and we have over 25,000 images stored there so far.
> > Occasionally I have had it finish loading and had a handful of images that
> > did not load a thumbnail on the main gallery page, but all I have to do when
> > that happens, is to refresh the page and the images that were already loaded
> > reload almost instantly and then the missing ones load at the normal rate.
> >
> > Breaking things up into different galleries is no big deal with Picasa if
> > you want to try that though, since you can create as many galleries as you
> > want inside one account. It also might help people find things faster too.
> > One way to consider breaking them up/dividing them beyond just 'Nominee'
> > etc, would be by size. Example; Icon's in one gallery larger banners in
> > another etc, since most people people are looking for a size to fit what
> > their forum allows.
> >
> > BTW, you can easily add notes to each thumbnail if you want to identify who
> > made things etc, AND people can comment at the Picasa galleries on
> > individual images... a feature that might come in handy at the end of the
> > contest when people are requesting customization of their final banners.
> >
> > Cactuskim
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ellin Ithilwen <ellin_revenger@...<ellin_revenger%40yahoo.com>
> > >
> > To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 2:15:25 PM
> > Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners
> >
> >
> > There is one more thing that crossed my mind, concerning the total number
> > of banners and possible problems in opening the album. My suggestion is not
> > for this year (for I can't think of anything), but for the next: if we'll
> > use Picasa again next year, and if Picasa remains the same - that is, not
> > being able to show only a certain number of pictures per page - perhaps we
> > can do it "manually". I mean, we can open album called Nominee banners 1.
> > When there are 100 banners, we open album Nominee banners 2, and again we
> > don't put more than 100 banners in it, and so on. What do you think?
> > *unsure*
> >
> > Ellynn
> >
> >
> > P.s. If you doubt we'll have enough banners for several albums, then I'll
> > tell you that for all those banners I've made - I also kept layered
> > versions, so all I have to do for next year is change 2010 to 2011. :D And I
> > can always make more. :D
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Msg# 10526

Re: Banners Posted by kimberli leal June 14, 2010 - 19:51:25 Topic ID# 964
Hi Becky,

I have no problem with having them all in one folder and was not suggesting a change. I only mentioned one way of breaking them down in the future since some people seemed to think that that would be easier. Any way you do it is fine with me... personally I rather like them all together, and the adjustable thumbnail size feature lets a person get a good look at things without having to do anything but scroll once the page has loaded ;p.

I was a banner maker last year and the year before, and pretty much dropped out of the process last year after making nomination banners because Photobucket was so incredibly unfriendly to the users uploading to it (took me over 2 hours just to upload about 40 tiny banners one of the times I tried it (and that doesn't count the additional time it took to try and force PB's worthless tagging system to work, and adding credits notes which took even longer). With files that small it would have taken me about 3 clicks and only five minuets with Picasa to load a whole folder, plus Picasa keeps the original file names, so banner makers could have just added their initials to their PSD files and it would have been on the banner file name automatically, so no work there. I finally gave up in frustration and just sent what I had left to NiRi to struggle with loading, which really wasn't very fair to her, but she was a sweety and did it anyways.

If you have any questions about Picasa, no problem at all asking me; If I don't know the answer, I can run it by the co-moderator of my manip group, who knows all the tricks ;p.

Cactuskim







________________________________
From: Neume Indil <neumeindil@gmail.com>
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 3:17:54 PM
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners

Thanks for that Cactuskim. :) I'm Becky/Neu, banner coordinator for this
year.

I'm pretty familiar with how Picasa works, but I'd like to explain the
organization decision I made re: 3 sections by type of banner. Last year
while loading into Photobucket, there were several places banner makers had
to post images, I think, as you suggested nominee icons in one, small
nominee banners in one, etc. At least one person found this difficult in
Photobucket's system, and there were many difficulties with load time for
both the banner makers and the users trying to pick a graphic. Since the
wider variety of sections was part of the problem with last year's set up, I
decided for this first run with Picasa to keep things as basic and 'right in
front of you' as possible. Changing the platform is confusing enough for
some people and I didn't want to overcomplicate things unless it was
necessary.

If it turns out that large albums in Picasa are a problem as well, I'll
definitely try breaking it down by type and size next year. :) (Assuming I'm
still doing it, which as of now I haven't found reason I wouldn't volunteer
again.)

If I do run into any snags I can't work around as the albums fill up, may I
contact you to pick your brain?

Thanks again,
Neu

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:52 PM, kimberli leal <kim@flash.net> wrote:

>
>
> I run a manipulation group that uses Picasa for storing our resources, and
> we routinely put up to 500 very large high resolution images into each
> gallery without any of the problems that the one user here was describing
> (and I have a slow internet connection [230kbs per sec max] and until this
> week had an 8 year old slow computer). Picasa has been very reliable and
> easy to use for us, and we have over 25,000 images stored there so far.
> Occasionally I have had it finish loading and had a handful of images that
> did not load a thumbnail on the main gallery page, but all I have to do when
> that happens, is to refresh the page and the images that were already loaded
> reload almost instantly and then the missing ones load at the normal rate.
>
> Breaking things up into different galleries is no big deal with Picasa if
> you want to try that though, since you can create as many galleries as you
> want inside one account. It also might help people find things faster too.
> One way to consider breaking them up/dividing them beyond just 'Nominee'
> etc, would be by size. Example; Icon's in one gallery larger banners in
> another etc, since most people people are looking for a size to fit what
> their forum allows.
>
> BTW, you can easily add notes to each thumbnail if you want to identify who
> made things etc, AND people can comment at the Picasa galleries on
> individual images... a feature that might come in handy at the end of the
> contest when people are requesting customization of their final banners.
>
> Cactuskim
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ellin Ithilwen <ellin_revenger@yahoo.com<ellin_revenger%40yahoo.com>
> >
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 2:15:25 PM
> Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners
>
>
> There is one more thing that crossed my mind, concerning the total number
> of banners and possible problems in opening the album. My suggestion is not
> for this year (for I can't think of anything), but for the next: if we'll
> use Picasa again next year, and if Picasa remains the same - that is, not
> being able to show only a certain number of pictures per page - perhaps we
> can do it "manually". I mean, we can open album called Nominee banners 1.
> When there are 100 banners, we open album Nominee banners 2, and again we
> don't put more than 100 banners in it, and so on. What do you think?
> *unsure*
>
> Ellynn
>
>
> P.s. If you doubt we'll have enough banners for several albums, then I'll
> tell you that for all those banners I've made - I also kept layered
> versions, so all I have to do for next year is change 2010 to 2011. :D And I
> can always make more. :D
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Msg# 10527

Re: Banners Posted by kimberli leal June 14, 2010 - 20:12:07 Topic ID# 964
Hi Kei,

I moderate a manipulation group, so I know just how big a pain in the back side dealing with the slowdown caused by lots of graphics can be. I also used to be a dial-up user until about 4 years ago... click on one picture and go make a cup of tea time it is so slow ;p. My group is at Live Journal, which is a site that makes places like Photobucket look fast and friendly, so I can sympathize with your slow and dodgy connection problems. It is so bad at LJ that I now pay them their $25 a year for the community, even though LJ doesn't give paid communities anything worth while over what free communities get except one thing; No Ads, and I was feeling so bad for our dial-up members being hit with Video adds, that I figured it was worth it just to get rid of the ads (felt like I was paying blackmail though ;p).

What our Dial-up members do is just open Picasa up in a separate tab so that they can do something else while the page loads and if necessary needs refreshed. Unfortunately if a connection is slow enough and prone to interruptions, anything with graphics is going to try your patience... which seems to be something you understand fairly well.

Cactuskim







________________________________
From: keiliss <scrapcat21@gmail.com>
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 4:35:02 PM
Subject: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners


I don't think it's possible to generalize as to how easy it is or isn't to view the banners on Picasa. I have a six year old PC and an internet connection not all that much faster than dialup. I also live in a country with considerably slower connectivity nationally than is found for example in the US. Loading the page took me just over 20 minutes, after which I had to reload it - another 5 minutes - as around 90 images didn't show up initially. Each time I clicked on an image to see the full size and maker's name it took time to load, after which I had to return to the album and wait for the graphics to refresh.

Not complaining, just detailing the experience. This is not the end of the world (it's way better than Photobucket, which my computer loathes) and I'm patient, but I thought it fair to point out there was more than one person having a few problems with this.

Kei.

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Neume Indil <neumeindil@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for that Cactuskim. :) I'm Becky/Neu, banner coordinator for this
> year.
>
> I'm pretty familiar with how Picasa works, but I'd like to explain the
> organization decision I made re: 3 sections by type of banner. Last year
> while loading into Photobucket, there were several places banner makers had
> to post images, I think, as you suggested nominee icons in one, small
> nominee banners in one, etc. At least one person found this difficult in
> Photobucket's system, and there were many difficulties with load time for
> both the banner makers and the users trying to pick a graphic. Since the
> wider variety of sections was part of the problem with last year's set up, I
> decided for this first run with Picasa to keep things as basic and 'right in
> front of you' as possible. Changing the platform is confusing enough for
> some people and I didn't want to overcomplicate things unless it was
> necessary.
>
> If it turns out that large albums in Picasa are a problem as well, I'll
> definitely try breaking it down by type and size next year. :) (Assuming I'm
> still doing it, which as of now I haven't found reason I wouldn't volunteer
> again.)
>
> If I do run into any snags I can't work around as the albums fill up, may I
> contact you to pick your brain?
>
> Thanks again,
> Neu
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:52 PM, kimberli leal <kim@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I run a manipulation group that uses Picasa for storing our resources, and
> > we routinely put up to 500 very large high resolution images into each
> > gallery without any of the problems that the one user here was describing
> > (and I have a slow internet connection [230kbs per sec max] and until this
> > week had an 8 year old slow computer). Picasa has been very reliable and
> > easy to use for us, and we have over 25,000 images stored there so far.
> > Occasionally I have had it finish loading and had a handful of images that
> > did not load a thumbnail on the main gallery page, but all I have to do when
> > that happens, is to refresh the page and the images that were already loaded
> > reload almost instantly and then the missing ones load at the normal rate.
> >
> > Breaking things up into different galleries is no big deal with Picasa if
> > you want to try that though, since you can create as many galleries as you
> > want inside one account. It also might help people find things faster too.
> > One way to consider breaking them up/dividing them beyond just 'Nominee'
> > etc, would be by size. Example; Icon's in one gallery larger banners in
> > another etc, since most people people are looking for a size to fit what
> > their forum allows.
> >
> > BTW, you can easily add notes to each thumbnail if you want to identify who
> > made things etc, AND people can comment at the Picasa galleries on
> > individual images... a feature that might come in handy at the end of the
> > contest when people are requesting customization of their final banners.
> >
> > Cactuskim
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ellin Ithilwen <ellin_revenger@...<ellin_revenger%40yahoo.com>
> > >
> > To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 2:15:25 PM
> > Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners
> >
> >
> > There is one more thing that crossed my mind, concerning the total number
> > of banners and possible problems in opening the album. My suggestion is not
> > for this year (for I can't think of anything), but for the next: if we'll
> > use Picasa again next year, and if Picasa remains the same - that is, not
> > being able to show only a certain number of pictures per page - perhaps we
> > can do it "manually". I mean, we can open album called Nominee banners 1.
> > When there are 100 banners, we open album Nominee banners 2, and again we
> > don't put more than 100 banners in it, and so on. What do you think?
> > *unsure*
> >
> > Ellynn
> >
> >
> > P.s. If you doubt we'll have enough banners for several albums, then I'll
> > tell you that for all those banners I've made - I also kept layered
> > versions, so all I have to do for next year is change 2010 to 2011. :D And I
> > can always make more. :D
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




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Msg# 10528

Re: Banners Posted by scrapcat June 14, 2010 - 20:34:26 Topic ID# 964
Hi Cactuskim,

Heh, yes. I have a paid LJ account and use Adblock on Firefox, which has made all the difference on some sites. Unlike Photobucket, Picasa's main fault is that it's time consuming, and it seemed worth making the point that this affects some members more than others. And yes, I have memories of 'make a cup of tea while the picture loads' nights, lol. Now it's more 'write an email while the page loads.' Progress of a kind :P

Kei.

----- Original Message -----
From: kimberli leal
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners



Hi Kei,

I moderate a manipulation group, so I know just how big a pain in the back side dealing with the slowdown caused by lots of graphics can be. I also used to be a dial-up user until about 4 years ago... click on one picture and go make a cup of tea time it is so slow ;p. My group is at Live Journal, which is a site that makes places like Photobucket look fast and friendly, so I can sympathize with your slow and dodgy connection problems. It is so bad at LJ that I now pay them their $25 a year for the community, even though LJ doesn't give paid communities anything worth while over what free communities get except one thing; No Ads, and I was feeling so bad for our dial-up members being hit with Video adds, that I figured it was worth it just to get rid of the ads (felt like I was paying blackmail though ;p).

What our Dial-up members do is just open Picasa up in a separate tab so that they can do something else while the page loads and if necessary needs refreshed. Unfortunately if a connection is slow enough and prone to interruptions, anything with graphics is going to try your patience... which seems to be something you understand fairly well.

Cactuskim

________________________________
From: keiliss <scrapcat21@gmail.com>
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 4:35:02 PM
Subject: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners

I don't think it's possible to generalize as to how easy it is or isn't to view the banners on Picasa. I have a six year old PC and an internet connection not all that much faster than dialup. I also live in a country with considerably slower connectivity nationally than is found for example in the US. Loading the page took me just over 20 minutes, after which I had to reload it - another 5 minutes - as around 90 images didn't show up initially. Each time I clicked on an image to see the full size and maker's name it took time to load, after which I had to return to the album and wait for the graphics to refresh.

Not complaining, just detailing the experience. This is not the end of the world (it's way better than Photobucket, which my computer loathes) and I'm patient, but I thought it fair to point out there was more than one person having a few problems with this.

Kei.

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Neume Indil <neumeindil@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for that Cactuskim. :) I'm Becky/Neu, banner coordinator for this
> year.
>
> I'm pretty familiar with how Picasa works, but I'd like to explain the
> organization decision I made re: 3 sections by type of banner. Last year
> while loading into Photobucket, there were several places banner makers had
> to post images, I think, as you suggested nominee icons in one, small
> nominee banners in one, etc. At least one person found this difficult in
> Photobucket's system, and there were many difficulties with load time for
> both the banner makers and the users trying to pick a graphic. Since the
> wider variety of sections was part of the problem with last year's set up, I
> decided for this first run with Picasa to keep things as basic and 'right in
> front of you' as possible. Changing the platform is confusing enough for
> some people and I didn't want to overcomplicate things unless it was
> necessary.
>
> If it turns out that large albums in Picasa are a problem as well, I'll
> definitely try breaking it down by type and size next year. :) (Assuming I'm
> still doing it, which as of now I haven't found reason I wouldn't volunteer
> again.)
>
> If I do run into any snags I can't work around as the albums fill up, may I
> contact you to pick your brain?
>
> Thanks again,
> Neu
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:52 PM, kimberli leal <kim@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I run a manipulation group that uses Picasa for storing our resources, and
> > we routinely put up to 500 very large high resolution images into each
> > gallery without any of the problems that the one user here was describing
> > (and I have a slow internet connection [230kbs per sec max] and until this
> > week had an 8 year old slow computer). Picasa has been very reliable and
> > easy to use for us, and we have over 25,000 images stored there so far.
> > Occasionally I have had it finish loading and had a handful of images that
> > did not load a thumbnail on the main gallery page, but all I have to do when
> > that happens, is to refresh the page and the images that were already loaded
> > reload almost instantly and then the missing ones load at the normal rate.
> >
> > Breaking things up into different galleries is no big deal with Picasa if
> > you want to try that though, since you can create as many galleries as you
> > want inside one account. It also might help people find things faster too.
> > One way to consider breaking them up/dividing them beyond just 'Nominee'
> > etc, would be by size. Example; Icon's in one gallery larger banners in
> > another etc, since most people people are looking for a size to fit what
> > their forum allows.
> >
> > BTW, you can easily add notes to each thumbnail if you want to identify who
> > made things etc, AND people can comment at the Picasa galleries on
> > individual images... a feature that might come in handy at the end of the
> > contest when people are requesting customization of their final banners.
> >
> > Cactuskim
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ellin Ithilwen <ellin_revenger@...<ellin_revenger%40yahoo.com>
> > >
> > To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 2:15:25 PM
> > Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners
> >
> >
> > There is one more thing that crossed my mind, concerning the total number
> > of banners and possible problems in opening the album. My suggestion is not
> > for this year (for I can't think of anything), but for the next: if we'll
> > use Picasa again next year, and if Picasa remains the same - that is, not
> > being able to show only a certain number of pictures per page - perhaps we
> > can do it "manually". I mean, we can open album called Nominee banners 1.
> > When there are 100 banners, we open album Nominee banners 2, and again we
> > don't put more than 100 banners in it, and so on. What do you think?
> > *unsure*
> >
> > Ellynn
> >
> >
> > P.s. If you doubt we'll have enough banners for several albums, then I'll
> > tell you that for all those banners I've made - I also kept layered
> > versions, so all I have to do for next year is change 2010 to 2011. :D And I
> > can always make more. :D
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Msg# 10529

Re: Banners Posted by Neume Indil June 14, 2010 - 21:28:30 Topic ID# 964
Hello Kei (and anybody else interested in this discussion.),

Another suggestion for slow load times has just occurred to me. I asked this
year's banner makers to tag their images as they uploaded them with the size
of the image, their name, and a line about the content (hobbits, sunset,
etc.). If you know what specific size you want, say a 110x70, stop the
MEFABanner page after the first row of thumbnails has loaded. In that first
row, find an example of the size you want (whether the topic is appropriate
for your story or not) and click it to load it full size. From there, a list
of tags will appear in the right hand column, which will include the size of
the banner. Clicking that tag will load all the banners of that size in that
section of the album, but not the other two sizes, essentially cutting the
load to 1/3 of the full capacity.

If you could try that for me and let me know how it works, I would
appreciate it. If it seems to work well, I can ask for a line to be added to
the FAQ explaining the process for those on slow connections/systems that
might run into the same problem later.

If there's anyone else reading that would be willing to test the load time
by clicking the tag, I'd appreciate your time and input. If we can find a
way to make this easier, it seems like the right thing to do.

Thanks in advance,
Neu/Becky

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:35 PM, keiliss <scrapcat21@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I don't think it's possible to generalize as to how easy it is or isn't to
> view the banners on Picasa. I have a six year old PC and an internet
> connection not all that much faster than dialup. I also live in a country
> with considerably slower connectivity nationally than is found for example
> in the US. Loading the page took me just over 20 minutes, after which I had
> to reload it - another 5 minutes - as around 90 images didn't show up
> initially. Each time I clicked on an image to see the full size and maker's
> name it took time to load, after which I had to return to the album and wait
> for the graphics to refresh.
>
> Not complaining, just detailing the experience. This is not the end of the
> world (it's way better than Photobucket, which my computer loathes) and I'm
> patient, but I thought it fair to point out there was more than one person
> having a few problems with this.
>
> Kei.
>
> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>, Neume
> Indil <neumeindil@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for that Cactuskim. :) I'm Becky/Neu, banner coordinator for this
> > year.
> >
> > I'm pretty familiar with how Picasa works, but I'd like to explain the
> > organization decision I made re: 3 sections by type of banner. Last year
> > while loading into Photobucket, there were several places banner makers
> had
> > to post images, I think, as you suggested nominee icons in one, small
> > nominee banners in one, etc. At least one person found this difficult in
> > Photobucket's system, and there were many difficulties with load time for
> > both the banner makers and the users trying to pick a graphic. Since the
> > wider variety of sections was part of the problem with last year's set
> up, I
> > decided for this first run with Picasa to keep things as basic and 'right
> in
> > front of you' as possible. Changing the platform is confusing enough for
> > some people and I didn't want to overcomplicate things unless it was
> > necessary.
> >
> > If it turns out that large albums in Picasa are a problem as well, I'll
> > definitely try breaking it down by type and size next year. :) (Assuming
> I'm
> > still doing it, which as of now I haven't found reason I wouldn't
> volunteer
> > again.)
> >
> > If I do run into any snags I can't work around as the albums fill up, may
> I
> > contact you to pick your brain?
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Neu
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:52 PM, kimberli leal <kim@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I run a manipulation group that uses Picasa for storing our resources,
> and
> > > we routinely put up to 500 very large high resolution images into each
> > > gallery without any of the problems that the one user here was
> describing
> > > (and I have a slow internet connection [230kbs per sec max] and until
> this
> > > week had an 8 year old slow computer). Picasa has been very reliable
> and
> > > easy to use for us, and we have over 25,000 images stored there so far.
> > > Occasionally I have had it finish loading and had a handful of images
> that
> > > did not load a thumbnail on the main gallery page, but all I have to do
> when
> > > that happens, is to refresh the page and the images that were already
> loaded
> > > reload almost instantly and then the missing ones load at the normal
> rate.
> > >
> > > Breaking things up into different galleries is no big deal with Picasa
> if
> > > you want to try that though, since you can create as many galleries as
> you
> > > want inside one account. It also might help people find things faster
> too.
> > > One way to consider breaking them up/dividing them beyond just
> 'Nominee'
> > > etc, would be by size. Example; Icon's in one gallery larger banners in
> > > another etc, since most people people are looking for a size to fit
> what
> > > their forum allows.
> > >
> > > BTW, you can easily add notes to each thumbnail if you want to identify
> who
> > > made things etc, AND people can comment at the Picasa galleries on
> > > individual images... a feature that might come in handy at the end of
> the
> > > contest when people are requesting customization of their final
> banners.
> > >
> > > Cactuskim
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Ellin Ithilwen <ellin_revenger@...<ellin_revenger%40yahoo.com>
> > > >
> > > To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com><MEFAwards%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 2:15:25 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners
> > >
> > >
> > > There is one more thing that crossed my mind, concerning the total
> number
> > > of banners and possible problems in opening the album. My suggestion is
> not
> > > for this year (for I can't think of anything), but for the next: if
> we'll
> > > use Picasa again next year, and if Picasa remains the same - that is,
> not
> > > being able to show only a certain number of pictures per page - perhaps
> we
> > > can do it "manually". I mean, we can open album called Nominee banners
> 1.
> > > When there are 100 banners, we open album Nominee banners 2, and again
> we
> > > don't put more than 100 banners in it, and so on. What do you think?
> > > *unsure*
> > >
> > > Ellynn
> > >
> > >
> > > P.s. If you doubt we'll have enough banners for several albums, then
> I'll
> > > tell you that for all those banners I've made - I also kept layered
> > > versions, so all I have to do for next year is change 2010 to 2011. :D
> And I
> > > can always make more. :D
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
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>


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Msg# 10530

Re: Banners Posted by Neume Indil June 14, 2010 - 21:35:33 Topic ID# 964
Hey CactusKim

:) Thanks for the help in advance. Here's hoping I won't need it.

You're also welcome to jump in on the bannermaking again this year if you'd
like. ;) It's never too late to get creative. If you decide to do it, let me
know and I can email the guidelines and album password.

A notorious hint dropper,
Neu/Becky

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:51 PM, kimberli leal <kim@flash.net> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Becky,
>
> I have no problem with having them all in one folder and was not suggesting
> a change. I only mentioned one way of breaking them down in the future since
> some people seemed to think that that would be easier. Any way you do it is
> fine with me... personally I rather like them all together, and the
> adjustable thumbnail size feature lets a person get a good look at things
> without having to do anything but scroll once the page has loaded ;p.
>
> I was a banner maker last year and the year before, and pretty much dropped
> out of the process last year after making nomination banners because
> Photobucket was so incredibly unfriendly to the users uploading to it (took
> me over 2 hours just to upload about 40 tiny banners one of the times I
> tried it (and that doesn't count the additional time it took to try and
> force PB's worthless tagging system to work, and adding credits notes which
> took even longer). With files that small it would have taken me about 3
> clicks and only five minuets with Picasa to load a whole folder, plus Picasa
> keeps the original file names, so banner makers could have just added their
> initials to their PSD files and it would have been on the banner file name
> automatically, so no work there. I finally gave up in frustration and just
> sent what I had left to NiRi to struggle with loading, which really wasn't
> very fair to her, but she was a sweety and did it anyways.
>
> If you have any questions about Picasa, no problem at all asking me; If I
> don't know the answer, I can run it by the co-moderator of my manip group,
> who knows all the tricks ;p.
>
> Cactuskim
>
> ________________________________
> From: Neume Indil <neumeindil@gmail.com <neumeindil%40gmail.com>>
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 3:17:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners
>
>
> Thanks for that Cactuskim. :) I'm Becky/Neu, banner coordinator for this
> year.
>
> I'm pretty familiar with how Picasa works, but I'd like to explain the
> organization decision I made re: 3 sections by type of banner. Last year
> while loading into Photobucket, there were several places banner makers had
> to post images, I think, as you suggested nominee icons in one, small
> nominee banners in one, etc. At least one person found this difficult in
> Photobucket's system, and there were many difficulties with load time for
> both the banner makers and the users trying to pick a graphic. Since the
> wider variety of sections was part of the problem with last year's set up,
> I
> decided for this first run with Picasa to keep things as basic and 'right
> in
> front of you' as possible. Changing the platform is confusing enough for
> some people and I didn't want to overcomplicate things unless it was
> necessary.
>
> If it turns out that large albums in Picasa are a problem as well, I'll
> definitely try breaking it down by type and size next year. :) (Assuming
> I'm
> still doing it, which as of now I haven't found reason I wouldn't volunteer
> again.)
>
> If I do run into any snags I can't work around as the albums fill up, may I
> contact you to pick your brain?
>
> Thanks again,
> Neu
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:52 PM, kimberli leal <kim@flash.net<kim%40flash.net>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I run a manipulation group that uses Picasa for storing our resources,
> and
> > we routinely put up to 500 very large high resolution images into each
> > gallery without any of the problems that the one user here was describing
> > (and I have a slow internet connection [230kbs per sec max] and until
> this
> > week had an 8 year old slow computer). Picasa has been very reliable and
> > easy to use for us, and we have over 25,000 images stored there so far.
> > Occasionally I have had it finish loading and had a handful of images
> that
> > did not load a thumbnail on the main gallery page, but all I have to do
> when
> > that happens, is to refresh the page and the images that were already
> loaded
> > reload almost instantly and then the missing ones load at the normal
> rate.
> >
> > Breaking things up into different galleries is no big deal with Picasa if
> > you want to try that though, since you can create as many galleries as
> you
> > want inside one account. It also might help people find things faster
> too.
> > One way to consider breaking them up/dividing them beyond just 'Nominee'
> > etc, would be by size. Example; Icon's in one gallery larger banners in
> > another etc, since most people people are looking for a size to fit what
> > their forum allows.
> >
> > BTW, you can easily add notes to each thumbnail if you want to identify
> who
> > made things etc, AND people can comment at the Picasa galleries on
> > individual images... a feature that might come in handy at the end of the
> > contest when people are requesting customization of their final banners.
> >
> > Cactuskim
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ellin Ithilwen <ellin_revenger@yahoo.com<ellin_revenger%40yahoo.com>
> <ellin_revenger%40yahoo.com>
>
> > >
> > To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com> <MEFAwards%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 2:15:25 PM
> > Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners
> >
> >
> > There is one more thing that crossed my mind, concerning the total number
> > of banners and possible problems in opening the album. My suggestion is
> not
> > for this year (for I can't think of anything), but for the next: if we'll
> > use Picasa again next year, and if Picasa remains the same - that is, not
> > being able to show only a certain number of pictures per page - perhaps
> we
> > can do it "manually". I mean, we can open album called Nominee banners 1.
> > When there are 100 banners, we open album Nominee banners 2, and again we
> > don't put more than 100 banners in it, and so on. What do you think?
> > *unsure*
> >
> > Ellynn
> >
> >
> > P.s. If you doubt we'll have enough banners for several albums, then I'll
> > tell you that for all those banners I've made - I also kept layered
> > versions, so all I have to do for next year is change 2010 to 2011. :D
> And I
> > can always make more. :D
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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>
>
> Visit our website: http://www.mefawards.net/MEFA2009/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
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Msg# 10531

Re: Banners Posted by Elena Tiriel June 14, 2010 - 23:49:49 Topic ID# 964
>
> P.s. If you doubt we'll have enough banners for several albums, then I'll
> tell you that for all those banners I've made - I also kept layered
> versions, so all I have to do for next year is change 2010 to 2011. :D And I
> can always make more. :D
>

Oh, thank you, Ellynn! I'm so relieved that I'm not the only, erm,
foresighted (obsessive?) one here.... though I have layers for all the years
between when I first made the banner and 2014 *whistles innocently*.

Have been too overwhelmed by Real Life to make banners so far, but I hope to
contribute some later. Sorry for missing the Nom season!

If anyone knows of a banner that I've made in any prior year that they'd
like to see for this year, email me and I'll work on it first.... I'm hoping
to convert all of them to 2010 eventually, but didn't manage to finish last
year.....

- Barbara


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Msg# 10532

Re: Banners Posted by Ellin Ithilwen June 15, 2010 - 2:23:05 Topic ID# 964
> If there's anyone else reading that would be willing to test the load time by clicking the tag, I'd appreciate your time and input. If we can find away to make this easier, it seems like the right thing to do.

I can try that, but I am quite lucky and I have a good and fast connection, so I guess my results should not be taken into account. But at least I can try to compare the time needed to show all banners and the time needed to show one particular size.

Ellynn





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Msg# 10533

Re: Banners Posted by kimberli leal June 15, 2010 - 14:34:12 Topic ID# 964
Hi Kei,

*Rolls eyes* LJ really knows how to make us pay don't they .... my personal account is paid too ;p... that place is Nasty for free users and people with dial-up or slow connections ;p.

Your right; basically any place high in graphics is going to demand more resources like Picasa does, but it is a lot better than other places... not skanky with hidden porn ads either like many other image hosting places (Some places are really Gross).

Cactuskim









________________________________
From: scrapcat <scrapcat21@gmail.com>
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 6:34:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners


Hi Cactuskim,

Heh, yes. I have a paid LJ account and use Adblock on Firefox, which has made all the difference on some sites. Unlike Photobucket, Picasa's main fault is that it's time consuming, and it seemed worth making the point that this affects some members more than others. And yes, I have memories of 'make a cup of tea while the picture loads' nights, lol. Now it's more 'write an email while the page loads.' Progress of a kind :P

Kei.

----- Original Message -----
From: kimberli leal
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners

Hi Kei,

I moderate a manipulation group, so I know just how big a pain in the back side dealing with the slowdown caused by lots of graphics can be. I also used to be a dial-up user until about 4 years ago... click on one picture and go make a cup of tea time it is so slow ;p. My group is at Live Journal, which is a site that makes places like Photobucket look fast and friendly, so I can sympathize with your slow and dodgy connection problems. It is so bad at LJ that I now pay them their $25 a year for the community, even though LJ doesn't give paid communities anything worth while over what free communities get except one thing; No Ads, and I was feeling so bad for our dial-up members being hit with Video adds, that I figured it was worth it just to get rid of the ads (felt like I was paying blackmail though ;p).

What our Dial-up members do is just open Picasa up in a separate tab so that they can do something else while the page loads and if necessary needs refreshed. Unfortunately if a connection is slow enough and prone to interruptions, anything with graphics is going to try your patience... which seems to be something you understand fairly well.

Cactuskim

________________________________
From: keiliss <scrapcat21@gmail.com>
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 4:35:02 PM
Subject: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners

I don't think it's possible to generalize as to how easy it is or isn't to view the banners on Picasa. I have a six year old PC and an internet connection not all that much faster than dialup. I also live in a country with considerably slower connectivity nationally than is found for example in the US. Loading the page took me just over 20 minutes, after which I had to reload it - another 5 minutes - as around 90 images didn't show up initially. Each time I clicked on an image to see the full size and maker's name it took time to load, after which I had to return to the album and wait for the graphics to refresh.

Not complaining, just detailing the experience. This is not the end of the world (it's way better than Photobucket, which my computer loathes) and I'm patient, but I thought it fair to point out there was more than one person having a few problems with this.

Kei.

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Neume Indil <neumeindil@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for that Cactuskim. :) I'm Becky/Neu, banner coordinator for this
> year.
>
> I'm pretty familiar with how Picasa works, but I'd like to explain the
> organization decision I made re: 3 sections by type of banner. Last year
> while loading into Photobucket, there were several places banner makers had
> to post images, I think, as you suggested nominee icons in one, small
> nominee banners in one, etc. At least one person found this difficult in
> Photobucket's system, and there were many difficulties with load time for
> both the banner makers and the users trying to pick a graphic. Since the
> wider variety of sections was part of the problem with last year's set up, I
> decided for this first run with Picasa to keep things as basic and 'right in
> front of you' as possible. Changing the platform is confusing enough for
> some people and I didn't want to overcomplicate things unless it was
> necessary.
>
> If it turns out that large albums in Picasa are a problem as well, I'll
> definitely try breaking it down by type and size next year. :) (Assuming I'm
> still doing it, which as of now I haven't found reason I wouldn't volunteer
> again.)
>
> If I do run into any snags I can't work around as the albums fill up, may I
> contact you to pick your brain?
>
> Thanks again,
> Neu
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:52 PM, kimberli leal <kim@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I run a manipulation group that uses Picasa for storing our resources, and
> > we routinely put up to 500 very large high resolution images into each
> > gallery without any of the problems that the one user here was describing
> > (and I have a slow internet connection [230kbs per sec max] and until this
> > week had an 8 year old slow computer). Picasa has been very reliable and
> > easy to use for us, and we have over 25,000 images stored there so far.
> > Occasionally I have had it finish loading and had a handful of images that
> > did not load a thumbnail on the main gallery page, but all I have to do when
> > that happens, is to refresh the page and the images that were already loaded
> > reload almost instantly and then the missing ones load at the normal rate.
> >
> > Breaking things up into different galleries is no big deal with Picasa if
> > you want to try that though, since you can create as many galleries as you
> > want inside one account. It also might help people find things faster too.
> > One way to consider breaking them up/dividing them beyond just 'Nominee'
> > etc, would be by size. Example; Icon's in one gallery larger banners in
> > another etc, since most people people are looking for a size to fit what
> > their forum allows.
> >
> > BTW, you can easily add notes to each thumbnail if you want to identify who
> > made things etc, AND people can comment at the Picasa galleries on
> > individual images... a feature that might come in handy at the end of the
> > contest when people are requesting customization of their final banners.
> >
> > Cactuskim
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ellin Ithilwen <ellin_revenger@...<ellin_revenger%40yahoo.com>
> > >
> > To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 2:15:25 PM
> > Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners
> >
> >
> > There is one more thing that crossed my mind, concerning the total number
> > of banners and possible problems in opening the album. My suggestion is not
> > for this year (for I can't think of anything), but for the next: if we'll
> > use Picasa again next year, and if Picasa remains the same - that is, not
> > being able to show only a certain number of pictures per page - perhaps we
> > can do it "manually". I mean, we can open album called Nominee banners 1.
> > When there are 100 banners, we open album Nominee banners 2, and again we
> > don't put more than 100 banners in it, and so on. What do you think?
> > *unsure*
> >
> > Ellynn
> >
> >
> > P.s. If you doubt we'll have enough banners for several albums, then I'll
> > tell you that for all those banners I've made - I also kept layered
> > versions, so all I have to do for next year is change 2010 to 2011. :D And I
> > can always make more. :D
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Msg# 10534

Re: Banners Posted by kimberli leal June 15, 2010 - 14:38:08 Topic ID# 964
Hi Becky,

In theory, you could do the same thing by subject too; let it load until you see the first one for a character you like, then click on that one to get to it's tags and get the sorted view only after that.

I have misplaced the link to the MEFA Picasa gallery, but if you can post that again, I can check out if it speeds things up for me

Cactuskim





________________________________
From: Neume Indil <neumeindil@gmail.com>
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 7:27:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners

Hello Kei (and anybody else interested in this discussion.),

Another suggestion for slow load times has just occurred to me. I asked this
year's banner makers to tag their images as they uploaded them with the size
of the image, their name, and a line about the content (hobbits, sunset,
etc.). If you know what specific size you want, say a 110x70, stop the
MEFABanner page after the first row of thumbnails has loaded. In that first
row, find an example of the size you want (whether the topic is appropriate
for your story or not) and click it to load it full size. From there, a list
of tags will appear in the right hand column, which will include the size of
the banner. Clicking that tag will load all the banners of that size in that
section of the album, but not the other two sizes, essentially cutting the
load to 1/3 of the full capacity.

If you could try that for me and let me know how it works, I would
appreciate it. If it seems to work well, I can ask for a line to be added to
the FAQ explaining the process for those on slow connections/systems that
might run into the same problem later.

If there's anyone else reading that would be willing to test the load time
by clicking the tag, I'd appreciate your time and input. If we can find a
way to make this easier, it seems like the right thing to do.

Thanks in advance,
Neu/Becky

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:35 PM, keiliss <scrapcat21@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I don't think it's possible to generalize as to how easy it is or isn't to
> view the banners on Picasa. I have a six year old PC and an internet
> connection not all that much faster than dialup. I also live in a country
> with considerably slower connectivity nationally than is found for example
> in the US. Loading the page took me just over 20 minutes, after which I had
> to reload it - another 5 minutes - as around 90 images didn't show up
> initially. Each time I clicked on an image to see the full size and maker's
> name it took time to load, after which I had to return to the album and wait
> for the graphics to refresh.
>
> Not complaining, just detailing the experience. This is not the end of the
> world (it's way better than Photobucket, which my computer loathes) and I'm
> patient, but I thought it fair to point out there was more than one person
> having a few problems with this.
>
> Kei.
>
> --- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>, Neume
> Indil <neumeindil@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for that Cactuskim. :) I'm Becky/Neu, banner coordinator for this
> > year.
> >
> > I'm pretty familiar with how Picasa works, but I'd like to explain the
> > organization decision I made re: 3 sections by type of banner. Last year
> > while loading into Photobucket, there were several places banner makers
> had
> > to post images, I think, as you suggested nominee icons in one, small
> > nominee banners in one, etc. At least one person found this difficult in
> > Photobucket's system, and there were many difficulties with load time for
> > both the banner makers and the users trying to pick a graphic. Since the
> > wider variety of sections was part of the problem with last year's set
> up, I
> > decided for this first run with Picasa to keep things as basic and 'right
> in
> > front of you' as possible. Changing the platform is confusing enough for
> > some people and I didn't want to overcomplicate things unless it was
> > necessary.
> >
> > If it turns out that large albums in Picasa are a problem as well, I'll
> > definitely try breaking it down by type and size next year. :) (Assuming
> I'm
> > still doing it, which as of now I haven't found reason I wouldn't
> volunteer
> > again.)
> >
> > If I do run into any snags I can't work around as the albums fill up, may
> I
> > contact you to pick your brain?
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Neu
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:52 PM, kimberli leal <kim@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I run a manipulation group that uses Picasa for storing our resources,
> and
> > > we routinely put up to 500 very large high resolution images into each
> > > gallery without any of the problems that the one user here was
> describing
> > > (and I have a slow internet connection [230kbs per sec max] and until
> this
> > > week had an 8 year old slow computer). Picasa has been very reliable
> and
> > > easy to use for us, and we have over 25,000 images stored there so far.
> > > Occasionally I have had it finish loading and had a handful of images
> that
> > > did not load a thumbnail on the main gallery page, but all I have to do
> when
> > > that happens, is to refresh the page and the images that were already
> loaded
> > > reload almost instantly and then the missing ones load at the normal
> rate.
> > >
> > > Breaking things up into different galleries is no big deal with Picasa
> if
> > > you want to try that though, since you can create as many galleries as
> you
> > > want inside one account. It also might help people find things faster
> too.
> > > One way to consider breaking them up/dividing them beyond just
> 'Nominee'
> > > etc, would be by size. Example; Icon's in one gallery larger banners in
> > > another etc, since most people people are looking for a size to fit
> what
> > > their forum allows.
> > >
> > > BTW, you can easily add notes to each thumbnail if you want to identify
> who
> > > made things etc, AND people can comment at the Picasa galleries on
> > > individual images... a feature that might come in handy at the end of
> the
> > > contest when people are requesting customization of their final
> banners.
> > >
> > > Cactuskim
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Ellin Ithilwen <ellin_revenger@...<ellin_revenger%40yahoo.com>
> > > >
> > > To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com><MEFAwards%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 2:15:25 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners
> > >
> > >
> > > There is one more thing that crossed my mind, concerning the total
> number
> > > of banners and possible problems in opening the album. My suggestion is
> not
> > > for this year (for I can't think of anything), but for the next: if
> we'll
> > > use Picasa again next year, and if Picasa remains the same - that is,
> not
> > > being able to show only a certain number of pictures per page - perhaps
> we
> > > can do it "manually". I mean, we can open album called Nominee banners
> 1.
> > > When there are 100 banners, we open album Nominee banners 2, and again
> we
> > > don't put more than 100 banners in it, and so on. What do you think?
> > > *unsure*
> > >
> > > Ellynn
> > >
> > >
> > > P.s. If you doubt we'll have enough banners for several albums, then
> I'll
> > > tell you that for all those banners I've made - I also kept layered
> > > versions, so all I have to do for next year is change 2010 to 2011. :D
> And I
> > > can always make more. :D
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>


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Msg# 10535

Re: Banners Posted by kimberli leal June 15, 2010 - 14:42:20 Topic ID# 964
Hi Becky,

Not sure if I would be able to find the time; between setting up my new system, the usual RL stuff, my manipulation group, and a Teenager, my plate is pretty full right now. Your welcome to send me the guidelines if you want, and IF I have some unexpected free time, I might be able to make a few.

Cactuskim




________________________________
From: Neume Indil <neumeindil@gmail.com>
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 7:35:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners

Hey CactusKim

:) Thanks for the help in advance. Here's hoping I won't need it.

You're also welcome to jump in on the bannermaking again this year if you'd
like. ;) It's never too late to get creative. If you decide to do it, let me
know and I can email the guidelines and album password.

A notorious hint dropper,
Neu/Becky

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:51 PM, kimberli leal <kim@flash.net> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Becky,
>
> I have no problem with having them all in one folder and was not suggesting
> a change. I only mentioned one way of breaking them down in the future since
> some people seemed to think that that would be easier. Any way you do it is
> fine with me... personally I rather like them all together, and the
> adjustable thumbnail size feature lets a person get a good look at things
> without having to do anything but scroll once the page has loaded ;p.
>
> I was a banner maker last year and the year before, and pretty much dropped
> out of the process last year after making nomination banners because
> Photobucket was so incredibly unfriendly to the users uploading to it (took
> me over 2 hours just to upload about 40 tiny banners one of the times I
> tried it (and that doesn't count the additional time it took to try and
> force PB's worthless tagging system to work, and adding credits notes which
> took even longer). With files that small it would have taken me about 3
> clicks and only five minuets with Picasa to load a whole folder, plus Picasa
> keeps the original file names, so banner makers could have just added their
> initials to their PSD files and it would have been on the banner file name
> automatically, so no work there. I finally gave up in frustration and just
> sent what I had left to NiRi to struggle with loading, which really wasn't
> very fair to her, but she was a sweety and did it anyways.
>
> If you have any questions about Picasa, no problem at all asking me; If I
> don't know the answer, I can run it by the co-moderator of my manip group,
> who knows all the tricks ;p.
>
> Cactuskim
>
> ________________________________
> From: Neume Indil <neumeindil@gmail.com <neumeindil%40gmail.com>>
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 3:17:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners
>
>
> Thanks for that Cactuskim. :) I'm Becky/Neu, banner coordinator for this
> year.
>
> I'm pretty familiar with how Picasa works, but I'd like to explain the
> organization decision I made re: 3 sections by type of banner. Last year
> while loading into Photobucket, there were several places banner makers had
> to post images, I think, as you suggested nominee icons in one, small
> nominee banners in one, etc. At least one person found this difficult in
> Photobucket's system, and there were many difficulties with load time for
> both the banner makers and the users trying to pick a graphic. Since the
> wider variety of sections was part of the problem with last year's set up,
> I
> decided for this first run with Picasa to keep things as basic and 'right
> in
> front of you' as possible. Changing the platform is confusing enough for
> some people and I didn't want to overcomplicate things unless it was
> necessary.
>
> If it turns out that large albums in Picasa are a problem as well, I'll
> definitely try breaking it down by type and size next year. :) (Assuming
> I'm
> still doing it, which as of now I haven't found reason I wouldn't volunteer
> again.)
>
> If I do run into any snags I can't work around as the albums fill up, may I
> contact you to pick your brain?
>
> Thanks again,
> Neu
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:52 PM, kimberli leal <kim@flash.net<kim%40flash.net>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I run a manipulation group that uses Picasa for storing our resources,
> and
> > we routinely put up to 500 very large high resolution images into each
> > gallery without any of the problems that the one user here was describing
> > (and I have a slow internet connection [230kbs per sec max] and until
> this
> > week had an 8 year old slow computer). Picasa has been very reliable and
> > easy to use for us, and we have over 25,000 images stored there so far.
> > Occasionally I have had it finish loading and had a handful of images
> that
> > did not load a thumbnail on the main gallery page, but all I have to do
> when
> > that happens, is to refresh the page and the images that were already
> loaded
> > reload almost instantly and then the missing ones load at the normal
> rate.
> >
> > Breaking things up into different galleries is no big deal with Picasa if
> > you want to try that though, since you can create as many galleries as
> you
> > want inside one account. It also might help people find things faster
> too.
> > One way to consider breaking them up/dividing them beyond just 'Nominee'
> > etc, would be by size. Example; Icon's in one gallery larger banners in
> > another etc, since most people people are looking for a size to fit what
> > their forum allows.
> >
> > BTW, you can easily add notes to each thumbnail if you want to identify
> who
> > made things etc, AND people can comment at the Picasa galleries on
> > individual images... a feature that might come in handy at the end of the
> > contest when people are requesting customization of their final banners.
> >
> > Cactuskim
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ellin Ithilwen <ellin_revenger@yahoo.com<ellin_revenger%40yahoo.com>
> <ellin_revenger%40yahoo.com>
>
> > >
> > To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com> <MEFAwards%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 2:15:25 PM
> > Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Re: Banners
> >
> >
> > There is one more thing that crossed my mind, concerning the total number
> > of banners and possible problems in opening the album. My suggestion is
> not
> > for this year (for I can't think of anything), but for the next: if we'll
> > use Picasa again next year, and if Picasa remains the same - that is, not
> > being able to show only a certain number of pictures per page - perhaps
> we
> > can do it "manually". I mean, we can open album called Nominee banners 1.
> > When there are 100 banners, we open album Nominee banners 2, and again we
> > don't put more than 100 banners in it, and so on. What do you think?
> > *unsure*
> >
> > Ellynn
> >
> >
> > P.s. If you doubt we'll have enough banners for several albums, then I'll
> > tell you that for all those banners I've made - I also kept layered
> > versions, so all I have to do for next year is change 2010 to 2011. :D
> And I
> > can always make more. :D
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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>
>
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>
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Msg# 10536

Reviews? Posted by Ellin Ithilwen June 16, 2010 - 12:04:07 Topic ID# 964
I am a little confused. Yesterdey morning, for a while, reviews for the stories were visible. And later in the afternoon/evening, and today also, they are again not visible. So, what's going on? *unsure* Did you just test something in that period?†And when should reviews become visible?

Ellynn




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Msg# 10537

Silmarillion banners Posted by Ellin Ithilwen June 16, 2010 - 13:12:48 Topic ID# 964
Just a short notice - for all of you who wrote Silmarillion-based stories, now there are several Silm-banners. :) I did not tag them by their contents, but they are all simply under one tag - Silmarillion.

And yes, I remind you - I am still waiting your orders. :) Lotr, or Silm, or Hobbit... :)

Ellynn




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Msg# 10538

Re: Reviews? Posted by telperion1 June 16, 2010 - 13:37:54 Topic ID# 964
Hi Ellynn,

*blush* That was a mistake on my part - We had a discussion several years
back about when reviews should be available, and people wanted them to be
shown earlier - as in, as soon as we've set the categories. (Back when we
had this discussion, there was about a month lag between announcing the
categories and displaying the reviews.) But in setting up things for this
year, I misinterpreted that discussion, and so I set the date too early -
for after nominations closed, not after the categories were set. Basically I
set the date earlier than anyone but me had intended.

After discussing it with several people, we decided to move back the date
when reviews would first be displayed. They are all still there, and will be
shown on July 16, the date after the categories are set. In the meantime, I
*do* encourage everyone to start reviewing if they haven't already. If you
see a story with the status "Nomination Finalized," you know it will be
competing - and in about a week, those will be the *only* stories listed on
our site.

Marta

> -----Original Message-----
> From: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Ellin Ithilwen
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:04 PM
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MEFAwards] Reviews?
>
>
>
> I am a little confused. Yesterdey morning, for a while, reviews for the
> stories were visible. And later in the afternoon/evening, and today
> also, they are again not visible. So, what's going on? *unsure* Did you
> just test something in that period? And when should reviews become
> visible?
>
> Ellynn
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>

Msg# 10540

Re: Reviews? Posted by melissa chandra June 16, 2010 - 20:08:53 Topic ID# 964
Umm. What about the reviews link (under the stories link, I think; at least when the screen reader read it) which appeared briefly about... two days ago? Was it for testing or something? I just remembered about it now, and my curiosity is back. :sheepish:

- Rey

--- On Wed, 6/16/10, telperion1 <marta.fandom@gmail.com> wrote:


From: telperion1 <marta.fandom@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Reviews?
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 2:37 PM






Hi Ellynn,

*blush* That was a mistake on my part - We had a discussion several years
back about when reviews should be available, and people wanted them to be
shown earlier - as in, as soon as we've set the categories. (Back when we
had this discussion, there was about a month lag between announcing the
categories and displaying the reviews.) But in setting up things for this
year, I misinterpreted that discussion, and so I set the date too early -
for after nominations closed, not after the categories were set. Basically I
set the date earlier than anyone but me had intended.

After discussing it with several people, we decided to move back the date
when reviews would first be displayed. They are all still there, and will be
shown on July 16, the date after the categories are set. In the meantime, I
*do* encourage everyone to start reviewing if they haven't already. If you
see a story with the status "Nomination Finalized," you know it will be
competing - and in about a week, those will be the *only* stories listed on
our site.

Marta

> -----Original Message-----
> From: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Ellin Ithilwen
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:04 PM
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MEFAwards] Reviews?
>
>
>
> I am a little confused. Yesterdey morning, for a while, reviews for the
> stories were visible. And later in the afternoon/evening, and today
> also, they are again not visible. So, what's going on? *unsure* Did you
> just test something in that period? And when should reviews become
> visible?
>
> Ellynn
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>











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Msg# 10541

Re: Reviews? Posted by Ellin Ithilwen June 17, 2010 - 4:43:13 Topic ID# 964
Oh, I see. *laughing*
Just one more question. Replying to reviews is one of the few things I do on time (there are many things in life that I do in the last moment *blush*), so when I saw the reviews to my stories, I immediately replied. So, what interests me is the following: even though reviews are still not officially visible - which means there is no replying for now - I hope that my replies will be delivered to reviewers anyway? Even though it's too early?
Thanks,

Ellynn


--- On Wed, 6/16/10, telperion1 <marta.fandom@gmail.com> wrote:

From: telperion1 <marta.fandom@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Reviews?
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 11:37 AM

















Hi Ellynn,



*blush* That was a mistake on my part - We had a discussion several years

back about when reviews should be available, and people wanted them to be

shown earlier - as in, as soon as we've set the categories. (Back when we

had this discussion, there was about a month lag between announcing the

categories and displaying the reviews.) But in setting up things for this

year, I misinterpreted that discussion, and so I set the date too early -

for after nominations closed, not after the categories were set. Basically I

set the date earlier than anyone but me had intended.






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Msg# 10546

Re: Reviews? Posted by telperion1 June 18, 2010 - 19:59:41 Topic ID# 964
Hiya Rey,

That was actually part of my mistake. I misunderstood how to enter dates on the website. So the link appeared earlier than it should. It will be back on July 16.

Marta

> -----Original Message-----
> From: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of melissa chandra
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:08 PM
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Reviews?
>
>
>
> Umm. What about the reviews link (under the stories link, I think; at
> least when the screen reader read it) which appeared briefly about...
> two days ago? Was it for testing or something? I just remembered about
> it now, and my curiosity is back. :sheepish:
>
>
> - Rey
>

Msg# 10547

Re: Reviews? Posted by telperion1 June 18, 2010 - 20:21:14 Topic ID# 964
Hiya Ellynn,

I have gone on and forwarded those review responses. Thanks for reminding
me.

Marta

> -----Original Message-----
> From: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Ellin Ithilwen
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:43 AM
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Reviews?
>
>
>
> Oh, I see. *laughing*
> Just one more question. Replying to reviews is one of the few things I
> do on time (there are many things in life that I do in the last moment
> *blush*), so when I saw the reviews to my stories, I immediately
> replied. So, what interests me is the following: even though reviews
> are still not officially visible - which means there is no replying for
> now - I hope that my replies will be delivered to reviewers anyway?
> Even though it's too early?
> Thanks,
>
> Ellynn
>
> --- On Wed, 6/16/10, telperion1 <marta.fandom@gmail.com
> <mailto:marta.fandom%40gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> From: telperion1 <marta.fandom@gmail.com
> <mailto:marta.fandom%40gmail.com> >
> Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Reviews?
> To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MEFAwards%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 11:37 AM
>
>
>
> Hi Ellynn,
>
> *blush* That was a mistake on my part - We had a discussion several
> years
>
> back about when reviews should be available, and people wanted them to
> be
>
> shown earlier - as in, as soon as we've set the categories. (Back when
> we
>
> had this discussion, there was about a month lag between announcing the
>
> categories and displaying the reviews.) But in setting up things for
> this
>
> year, I misinterpreted that discussion, and so I set the date too early
> -
>
> for after nominations closed, not after the categories were set.
> Basically I
>
> set the date earlier than anyone but me had intended.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>

Msg# 10549

Re: Reviews? Posted by Ellin Ithilwen June 19, 2010 - 6:52:25 Topic ID# 964
Thanks, Marta. :)

--- On Fri, 6/18/10, telperion1 <marta.fandom@gmail.com> wrote:


From: telperion1 <marta.fandom@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [MEFAwards] Reviews?
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 6:21 PM






Hiya Ellynn,

I have gone on and forwarded those review responses. Thanks for reminding
me.

Marta




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