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Some archives like Silmarillion Writer's Guild have the option to include separate stories posted to be in a series. You can provide a link to both the series and the individual stories. Can you nominate the whole series and provide the link to the series or do you have to nominate the individual stories?


 



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Didn't we agree that that would be at the author's discretion, whether the
author preferred a particular story or an entire series be nominated?

On TFF I have my collections noted as series, but would far prefer the
individual stories within them be nominated rather than the entire series.
Bonnie L. Sherrell
Teacher at Large

"Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends." LOTR

"Don't go where I can't follow."

One potential problem with nominating an entire series is that in some cases individual stories with the series may have already been nominated in previous years (and thus ineligable for the MEFAs this year).

Ithilwen

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>Some archives like Silmarillion Writer's Guild have the option to include separate stories posted to be in a series. You can provide a link to both the series and the individual stories. Can you nominate the whole series and provide the link to the series or do you have to nominate the individual stories?
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In my case I have novels, novellas, long short stories, and short stories
included in one of my "series" on the SWG. I consider it a way of linking
readers to the other work I have in the same story!verse so to speak. My
understanding of our previous discussion was that it generally referred to
posting of individual drabbles as chapters. And even then we agree people
could choose to nominate them together or separately. I would have virtually
nothing to nominate ever if my entire "series" which contain more than 50% of
my work had to be considered as one story.
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*riffles about in MEFA FAQs*

Aha! I knew we had it somewhere. There's a nice summation of the issues
surrounding nominating series (and anthologies) in this FAQ:

http://www.mefawards.net/MEFA2008/index.php?page=FAQeligibility#eli_5

The short answer is that you can nominate either the series or the
individual stories, and authors can decide how they want their pieces to
compete - but there may be an impact down the line on whether a story or
series is eligible in future depending on what has already competed.
There's a table in the FAQ that summarises all of that.

HTH

Tanaqui
MEFA Tech Support

Alassante7 wrote:

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> Some archives like Silmarillion Writer's Guild have the option to
> include separate stories posted to be in a series. You can provide a
> link to both the series and the individual stories. Can you nominate the
> whole series and provide the link to the series or do you have to
> nominate the individual stories?
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>
> ~~**~~
> I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge.
> JRR Tolkien
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> ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) -:|:-
> °º.. Alassante .. º°
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Hi Alassante,

Tanaqui gave you a good link to an FAQ that deals with this issue.

http://www.mefawards.net/MEFA2008/index.php?page=FAQeligibility#eli_5

But I'll answer your question with regard to the specific issue you
raise too, since this is a question that is important to get right.

Short answer: you may nominate either the whole series or any
individual part of the series. Long answer: but either choice will
effect whether other parts of the series are eligible in the future.

Essentially, the situation is this. Say someone nominated your series
"Dances with Tilion"
(http://www.silmarillionwritersguild.org/archive/home/viewuser.php?uid=15)
back in 2008. I know that they didn't, I don't even know if that
series was posted in 2008, but let's just suppose it was nominated
last year. Since you let that series compete (in this hypothetical
situation), the pieces that are part of that series aren't eligible
anymore. So someone couldn't come along and nominate "Cursed
Commitment" or "Starlit Nights" in 2009, because those pieces already
competed when "Dances with Tilion" competed.

On the other hand, let's say someone nominated "Cursed Commitment"
back in 2008. In this case "Dances with Tillion" wouldn't be eligible
because if it competed, then "Cursed Commitment" would have to compete
twice - once as a single piece in 2008, and again as part of a series
in 2009. However, in this scenario the other part of the series
("Starlit Nights" could still be nominated as a stand-alone piece
since it never competed.

Because of the way parts of series can affect eligibility of other
pieces (or the series as a whole), we give authors a choice. If
someone nominates one of your series, you as the author have the right
to either accept the nomination of the series, or change the
nomination to one single part of the series. So if you didn't want the
whole series to be nominated together, and someone put forward "Dances
with Tilion," you could change the nomination to just be for "Cursed
Commitment." That way the other parts (in this example "Starlit
Nights") would still be eligible in the future.

This all feels a little complicated, the way I've explained it. I hope
giving an example helps. The chart in the FAQ also is helpful IMO. And
if you (or anyone else) has any questions, please do ask. :-)

Marta

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alassante7 <alassante7@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
> Some archives like Silmarillion Writer's Guild have the option to include
> separate stories posted to be in a series. You can provide a link to both
> the series and the individual stories. Can you nominate the whole series and
> provide the link to the series or do you have to nominate the individual
> stories?
>
>
>
> ~~**~~
> I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge.
> JRR Tolkien
>
>
>  ..·*´¨¨))   -:¦:-
>         ¸.·´  .·´¨¨))  -:|:-
> °º.. Alassante .. º°
>     -:¦:-    ((¸¸.·´*  -:|:-
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>

I think I got what you're saying =0) I have a few drabble/short stories series posted in various places. Most of them are related to the other drabbles in the series so I would want the series all nominated but others (like Dances with Tilion) are just a bunch of drabbles collected because SoA didn't want drabbles posted separately. If I had one piece nominated on that one, I'd prefer it to be competing on its own. But my other series, I would want to compete as a whole.
 
So basically I would do the same for another writer. If I felt like their series was a collection of stories with the same theme, I'll nominate the whole series but if they are different various themes, I will nominate by the story. Ultimately though the writer would be the one to have the final say in what was nominated.
 

 



~~**~~
I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge. 
JRR Tolkien
 




 ..·*´¨¨))   -:¦:-
        ¸.·´  .·´¨¨))  -:|:- 
°º.. Alassante .. º°
    -:¦:-    ((¸¸.·´*  -:|:-

--- On Tue, 5/12/09, Marta <marta.fandom@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Marta <marta.fandom@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MEFAwards] Question about series
To: MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 3:48 PM








Hi Alassante,

Tanaqui gave you a good link to an FAQ that deals with this issue.

http://www.mefaward s.net/MEFA2008/ index.php? page=FAQeligibil ity#eli_5

But I'll answer your question with regard to the specific issue you
raise too, since this is a question that is important to get right.

Short answer: you may nominate either the whole series or any
individual part of the series. Long answer: but either choice will
effect whether other parts of the series are eligible in the future.

Essentially, the situation is this. Say someone nominated your series
"Dances with Tilion"
(http://www.silmaril lionwritersguild .org/archive/ home/viewuser. php?uid=15)
back in 2008. I know that they didn't, I don't even know if that
series was posted in 2008, but let's just suppose it was nominated
last year. Since you let that series compete (in this hypothetical
situation), the pieces that are part of that series aren't eligible
anymore. So someone couldn't come along and nominate "Cursed
Commitment" or "Starlit Nights" in 2009, because those pieces already
competed when "Dances with Tilion" competed.

On the other hand, let's say someone nominated "Cursed Commitment"
back in 2008. In this case "Dances with Tillion" wouldn't be eligible
because if it competed, then "Cursed Commitment" would have to compete
twice - once as a single piece in 2008, and again as part of a series
in 2009. However, in this scenario the other part of the series
("Starlit Nights" could still be nominated as a stand-alone piece
since it never competed.

Because of the way parts of series can affect eligibility of other
pieces (or the series as a whole), we give authors a choice. If
someone nominates one of your series, you as the author have the right
to either accept the nomination of the series, or change the
nomination to one single part of the series. So if you didn't want the
whole series to be nominated together, and someone put forward "Dances
with Tilion," you could change the nomination to just be for "Cursed
Commitment." That way the other parts (in this example "Starlit
Nights") would still be eligible in the future.

This all feels a little complicated, the way I've explained it. I hope
giving an example helps. The chart in the FAQ also is helpful IMO. And
if you (or anyone else) has any questions, please do ask. :-)

Marta

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alassante7 <alassante7@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
> Some archives like Silmarillion Writer's Guild have the option to include
> separate stories posted to be in a series. You can provide a link to both
> the series and the individual stories. Can you nominate the whole series and
> provide the link to the series or do you have to nominate the individual
> stories?
>
>
>
> ~~**~~
> I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge.
> JRR Tolkien
>
>
>  ..·*´¨¨))   -:¦:-
>         ¸.·´  .·´¨¨))  -:|:-
> °º.. Alassante .. º°
>     -:¦:-    ((¸¸.·´*  -:|:-
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On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Alassante7 <alassante7@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> I think I got what you're saying =0) I have a few drabble/short
> stories series posted in various places. Most of them are related to the
> other drabbles in the series so I would want the series all nominated but
> others (like Dances with Tilion) are just a bunch of drabbles collected
> because SoA didn't want drabbles posted separately. If I had one piece
> nominated on that one, I'd prefer it to be competing on its own. But my
> other series, I would want to compete as a whole.
>
> So basically I would do the same for another writer. If I felt like their
> series was a collection of stories with the same theme, I'll nominate the
> whole series but if they are different various themes, I will nominate by
> the story. Ultimately though the writer would be the one to have the final
> say in what was nominated.
>
>

Hi Alassante,

You got it! Not only the details but also the general philosophy
behind it. Some series have a sort of overarching theme to them, a
structure, so it makes sense for the whole series to compete together.
Other series are really just holders for ficlets that are too short to
post as separate stories. In those cases you are free to nominate just
the single part. Ultimately it's up to the author to decide whether
they want to compete as a series or as an individual piece, and they
do have that ability to make that choice.

Glad to get this cleared up. :-)

Marta