Yahoo Forum Archive

Possibly one for Aranel...

I expected this list to look almost exactly like the 'Characters' list, but it is much, much shorter. In fact, I think it's only listing Third Age characters. Is it (mis)linked to another selection or something?

Cheers,

Moreth

Hiya Moreth,

This isn't a technical error. As you see there are two lists - one long
"Characters" and one shorter "Characters for Categorization." The first
list is shown to readers, the second list is used to set up subcategories.

The reason the second list is so short is that we want authors to focus
on those characters that have a realistic chance at giving us a good
subcategory. It helps the categorizers a lot to have this list be pretty
short, and since this list is *only* used by categorizers and not
readers we design it with their needs in mind.

The trouble is that, while there may easily be 8-9 Faramir stories in
even a medium-sized category, the same can't often be said about
Fingolfin. And when there are, they are usually by much fewer authors
than there would be for Faramir. This isn't a comment on First Age fic,
just a comment about the demographics of the stories that have been
nominated in the past. As we get more stories nominated involving First
Age characters, we will begin to see characters that might make good
additions to the "characters for categorization" list.

There are *some* Silmarillion-based characters. For instance, House of
Finwe. Sindarin Elves is probably used more for Thingol than for Legolas
:-), and even Elrond and Family is used sometimes for Elrond and Elros
growing up (not just Elrond's wife and kids in the Third Age). But as it
turns out, in the past we often find better subcategories on the basis
of settings, like a "Doriath" or "Gondolin" or "Undying Lands". There
are simply so many characters in the Silmarillion, and not enough
Silm-based stories nominated, those stories don't often split up well on
character lines.

That said: if you do see characters you think would make good additions
to the list, I'm certainly willing to include them. We don't edit these
lists mid-awards (not fair to people who have already filled out their
forms), but we could look at whether they should be added for next year.

Thanks,

Marta
(MEFA Admin.)

subcategory.
moreth00 wrote:

>
>
>
> Possibly one for Aranel...
>
> I expected this list to look almost exactly like the 'Characters' list,
> but it is much, much shorter. In fact, I think it's only listing Third
> Age characters. Is it (mis)linked to another selection or something?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Moreth
>

Thanks, Marta! That makes sense :D

I think, considering your response, I'll leave that one N/A and go with the locations category.

Thanks for the quick response!

Moreth

--- In MEFAwards@yahoogroups.com, Marta <marta.fandom@...> wrote:
>
> Hiya Moreth,
>
> This isn't a technical error. As you see there are two lists - one long
> "Characters" and one shorter "Characters for Categorization." The first
> list is shown to readers, the second list is used to set up subcategories.
>
> The reason the second list is so short is that we want authors to focus
> on those characters that have a realistic chance at giving us a good
> subcategory. It helps the categorizers a lot to have this list be pretty
> short, and since this list is *only* used by categorizers and not
> readers we design it with their needs in mind.
>
> The trouble is that, while there may easily be 8-9 Faramir stories in
> even a medium-sized category, the same can't often be said about
> Fingolfin. And when there are, they are usually by much fewer authors
> than there would be for Faramir. This isn't a comment on First Age fic,
> just a comment about the demographics of the stories that have been
> nominated in the past. As we get more stories nominated involving First
> Age characters, we will begin to see characters that might make good
> additions to the "characters for categorization" list.
>
> There are *some* Silmarillion-based characters. For instance, House of
> Finwe. Sindarin Elves is probably used more for Thingol than for Legolas
> :-), and even Elrond and Family is used sometimes for Elrond and Elros
> growing up (not just Elrond's wife and kids in the Third Age). But as it
> turns out, in the past we often find better subcategories on the basis
> of settings, like a "Doriath" or "Gondolin" or "Undying Lands". There
> are simply so many characters in the Silmarillion, and not enough
> Silm-based stories nominated, those stories don't often split up well on
> character lines.
>
> That said: if you do see characters you think would make good additions
> to the list, I'm certainly willing to include them. We don't edit these
> lists mid-awards (not fair to people who have already filled out their
> forms), but we could look at whether they should be added for next year.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marta
> (MEFA Admin.)
>
> subcategory.
> moreth00 wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Possibly one for Aranel...
> >
> > I expected this list to look almost exactly like the 'Characters' list,
> > but it is much, much shorter. In fact, I think it's only listing Third
> > Age characters. Is it (mis)linked to another selection or something?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Moreth
> >
>

Hi Moreth,

Sounds like a plan to me. :-)

Marta

moreth00 wrote:

>
>
>
> Thanks, Marta! That makes sense :D
>
> I think, considering your response, I'll leave that one N/A and go with
> the locations category.
>
> Thanks for the quick response!
>
> Moreth
>